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LOL! I always liked him...I was gonna say Jack Sparrow had bigger boobs than Liz, but he's actually a twiggy little dude!

Longarm, after reading the Pirate of Exquisite Mind book I had the same reaction: "I need MORE!". I found a nice two volume set of all Dampier's works at www.abebooks.com. Pricey, but worth every penny, with the engravings, fold out maps (centerfolds of the 18th century), etc...

LOL Norrington has bigger boobs than Liz Swann!

Why the *&^$# should the Domincan Rep. care if their ancestors are portrayed as cannibals - blimey! Fer cryin' out loud, don't they know that in the film, our Anglo ancestors are portrayed as drunken, greedy, violent, nefarious, eternally damned PIRATES? ? ? Sheesh that's just as bad as eatin' people! Gore should just keep the script as is, then issue a note in the credits that says "The Caribs were mostly good people, except for a few who may have eaten some folks. I promise they DON'T EAT PEOPLE anymore!"

Series 2 will be a Cursed Barbossa, Cursed Jack, and two more as yet unnamed characters, presumably Elizabeth and Norrington.

Well don't forget Caesar, one of Teach's men who was taken to Williamsburg to stand trial with Israel Hands and the others. I believe he was hung? He was reportedly one tough bastid, he was the one who was going to blow the ship sky high rather than be taken alive, wasn't he? I'm just shooting from my spotty memory here.

No he's in the Gold Coast Tourism & Hospitality Industry.

I thought black scarves came into vogue to mourn Nelson's death? Yeah, the hats do look low and flat, though that could be artist's attempt at making them look battered and worn. Also, most of the sailors have laced shoes instead of buckles.

Ok, this is getting frustrating. First the NECA site said they would be out in Jan. Then they said Feb. NOW they say March 1st on Amazon. Does anyone out there have them yet?

I think alot of us have that enthusiasm in common, Patrick. My goal in this reenacting thing is to eventually come as close to really "being" a period sailor/pirate as I can. And in doing so I have no time for fantasy. If that makes me bad, so be it. I'm not doing this to make friends and go on parade. Sure, the comradery is a great fringe benefit, but the core of it is that I want to experience early 18th Century maritime life as much as is possible. So, yes, it is enthusiasm for what I'm doing, not disdain for what others are doing. I think sometimes we "authenticity nazis" are misread that way.

GOF this is one of my faves too. Lotsa stuff in here! For starters, you can see the battered cocked hats and nondescript clothing of the sailors. The man on the left, holding the necklace up has a unique jacket though, with those two rows of buttons? It may be run-of-the-mill, but I've never seen it before. I love the apprehensive look on the women's faces. Fear mixed with curiousity. :) Back to the sailors: I see basic trousers/slops, short jackets, and cocked hats. Since this art is from Woodes Roger's book, is it safe to assume that he would have been involved in the commission of an artist, and thus supplied the details of the scene? I think so. Rogers was a straight-up kinda guy, seems to me that he would not want his experiences to be grossly misrepresented or exaggerated too much...so in my book, this pic is one of if not the best references we have for a sailor's shore-going rig smack in the GAOP.

The Black Swan was shot in glorious Technicolor. How did you come to have a copy in B&W?

Boy and we think changing the oil every 3,000 miles is a pain!

NICE! Anyone in Philly wanna meet me at the Trocadero?

So then it's probably what they used when there was no soft sandy shoreline available to run aground on, for instance in deep, rock bottom harbors, or harbors set against cliffs.

Not only is there a chest, but the captain is wearing a saaassshhhhh That's great! Now I have some reference to begin making my own chest! (Though I'm gonna try cranking out a couple belaying pins first)

So, sort of a barge equipped with a crane?

I had always read that ships were careened by essentially running them aground in soft sandy areas, then heaving it over on it's side with rope & tackle, often via trees on the shore. Recently I read in Philip Ashton's account (the kid who was taken by Low in Newfoundland) that while in the West Indies, Low lost his flagship while attempting to careen it thus: He ordered everyone into the yards to tip the ship on it's side, but the mast/yards stuck in the bottom of the harbor, essentially pinning the ship upside down, after which it broke apart and sunk. So I'm guessing this wasn't the wisest way to go about cleaning the ship's bottom. NOW, I'm reading Dampier's Voyage to New Holland, and twice he mentions that he needs to careen, but the first time he can't because the local merchants rent a "hulk" for such purposes, but it's too expensive. The second time Dampier says he won't careen for want of a "hulk". So what is he referring to? A type of tow-boat?

If you send this manufacturer your foot measurements, they'll make it fit. And thanks for the compliment!

Red Maria - post the part about how some of the pirates got into the powder box (for wigs) and emerged from Snelgrave's cabin covered from head to toe in white powder, pretending to be dandy fops, to which even Snelgrave himself had to laugh! (I hope I'm not confusing this with Robert's account...I don't think I am)

Kass I "borrowed" it from the web url watermarked on the image. It's a very extensive German site on costume history. This was noted as early 18th century, with no artist credits, etc.

Apologies if you've seen this one before...it was new to me.

Sorry, I think it's better placed in Greg's continuing thread,RIGHT HERE!

The simple answer is, that is was just the accepted norm, and being seen without such clothing would be like you or me walking down the street naked today. Not to mention it offered protection from the sun. Now speaking from personal experience, I cannot see how they did it either. I was a groomsman in my brother's wedding which was outdoors on a HOT 90+degree July day, and we were in full tuxedos. Well after an hour I damn near had heatstroke and just barely made it inside to lay down before passing out. Course, the period linens breathed much better than today's synthetic stuff.

It makes sense Kass, when you look at pop culture since 1980. Dungeons and Dragons, The Hobbit, Conan, and scores of other late 70's/early 80's films all the way up through POTC and Lord of The Rings. People saw these movies and said "Hey that looks much cooler than the real Renaissance stuff...I wanna do THAT!"