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Yo Ho Humbug! Merry X-Mas All Ye Scalawags!! May none o' ye receive coal in yer stock'ns this yarr 'n may none dance in th' jig, may th' Admiralty grant everyone a pardon... if naught then; Confusion t' th' colonies 'n Death t' th' Governor!!! ~ Twas the Eve Before X-mas ~ As recalled by Captain Santa Clause, aka Whitebeard Twas th' Eve before X-mas, when all through th' ship Naught a creature was stirring, naught even th' ghost of old crewman Nick. The cutlasses where all hung on in th' ship's haul with care, In hopes that a ship full of booty will soon sail na'r; Th' crew were nestled all snug in their hung beds, Whilst visions of virgin whores danced in their heads. And Mary Ormond in her kerchief, and I in me tricorn nightcap, Had just settled down for a long night's nap, When out off th' bow there arose such a clatter, I sprang ta the poop deck ta see what was th' matter! Away ta th' deck I flew like a flash, Tore open a powder keg and threw back me sash. Th' moon on th' horizon caused th' calm sea waves ta glow Gave th' luster of Davey Jones' treasure down below, When what ta me bewilder'n eyes should appear, But two small ships, and eight tiny cannons all aimed at me rear, With a scurvy nave at their helm, so lively and quick, I knew in a moment it must be that dog Lt. Maynard on that thar ship! More rapid then frenzied sharks his corsairs did came, And he shouted and cursed, and called them by name; "Now Shorty! On deck Pete! on, Fletcher and William! To the crow's nest with ye Morgan, All others man th' guns! Now heave men! Heave! Ready them cannons! Ready them all! As a cursed black plague on a wild hurricane they did fly, One went starboard, the other port, as dark clouds began ta form in th' sky. With cannons on th' ready and guns at their side these corsairs did flew With blood in his eyes and saber a rattl'n, Lt. Robert Maynard did too. And then, as I blinked me one good eye, I felt a crack in me tooth, As the explosions of those eight tiny cannons blew from th' helm me galley's roof! As I drew out me pistols, and began to return fire, Me crew came a husselin, some without even any attire. Most were dressed and ready, and all armed from head ta their foot, From the explosions their clothes where dirtied with ashes and soot; But me crew tis th' bastards o' th' sea, ta arms they took up Like an army o' mad sea-dogs they are, and nay a one a pup! Me one good eye -- how it twinkled! Th' smell of battle, how bloody merry! Me cheeks lit with delight, for suddenly Maynard didn't look so cheery! His beardless face had just turned as white as snow; Th' stump o' me pipe I held tight in me teeth, And th' smoke it encircled me head, just like a wreath; Maynard, his face grew red with fire As me crew tooks their aim and I yelled "RETURN FIRE!" Oh how his tiny ships they shook like jelly And I laughed so hard it shook me belly. With a wink o' me eye and twist o' me head, Soon ol' Maynard, he knew there be much ta dread; As th' muskets red glare, The cannons burstin' in air; Gave proof through th' night, That me Jolly Rodger still be thar! Me crew spoke naught another word, but continued their work, And filled th' cannons with lead; then returned it ta that jerk. And as Maynard's two tiny ships sank out o' sight, I hollard out with all o' me might; "Merry Bloody X-Mas Maynard; Me Foe And Me Friend, For It Be Ye And NAUGHT I That Has Finally Met Yer End!"

*hmm, be'r late than early I always says* Glad ye all clear'd up th' TAR vs PITCH part! Drink'n from a tarred vessel I do naught thinks would taste so goodz! Fer th' drink'n vessel; I have had me leather Tudor Rose tankard fer nearly three year and have found that bee's wax (just th' cakes ye gets from a fine tailor supply) does right fine - AND when freshly coated it taints th' grog with a nicely not too sweet honey effect too! Using a good hot gun it easily blends right in with th' original PITCH in th' tankard. ....however, me leather rose tankard now be TANKARD NAPP'D by some cur off th' Star Of India. Now as fer TAR; aye, American Rope & Tar be bought th' last and only place t' procure th' Real Deal - TarStockholm Tar I have used both their Tarred Hemp Marline (all sizes) as well as th' fine tar itself they offer in pints even! Th' tarred marline be grand fer arts and other such stuff and maintains a fine smell fer a long long time (I Love Th' Smell O' Tar In Th' Morn!!) The raw tar be grand fer coat'n stuff too as well, and fer make'n stains upon yer clothes 'n gear; and then they ALL smell good! I have even used th' tar t' coat me leather goods! Aye, me leather goods, it darkens it up a bit and adds a nice 'slightly-aged' look - I have tarred both me leather sword sheaths, me dagger sheath, as well as me leather Dice Cups! Th' leather will soak up th' tar in no time and it dries t' th' touch in just a couple days (weather permitt'n I suppose). Th' rope work here (on me sword and dagger handles, and th' dagger sheath) are all done with hemp marline from American Rope & Tar: Others done with tarred hemp can be found here: Mad L's knotty stuff I have also since done several braided 'belt charm' holders using th' line as well as a braided tankard holder (I hate them 'latched' types what keep unlatche'n them self!) I have search'd far and wide fer other resources, none can either supply nor compare; however there is another so-called "tarred hemp" line out there, it be black in color and th' line is not truely "hemp" but jute instead. There also be one other source o' pine tar fer sail ships, can't recall where and I never got from them after reading comments in a boater's forum from those who have actually used both on their true ship - currently thar be ONLY ONE source fer th' real Stockholm Tar! But fer hemp sail line I found one other - claims to have 'tarred' as well as un-tarred but so far I have only been able to obtain an un-tarred ball o' line from him - Good stuff! But ye must call him, no online ordering available: R&W Knots & Decorative Lines good source, very helpful when ye calls him! My other attempts: http://www.sailrite.com/Marline-Tarred-Hemp-Thin-590-Feet?sc=2&category=7316 http://www.greenboatstuff.com/tahema.html http://www.marlinespike.com/tools.html (fine, and EXPENSIVE riggers gear!) http://compostablegoods.com/index.php?cPath=22_33 http://www.duckworksbbs.com/sailmaking/sailtwine5/index.htm http://www.hempemporium.com/ http://www.rope-hq.com/ http://hempbasics.com/ http://briontoss.com/catalog/tools.html ....now, back t' rope'n me new - NOT leather 'n NOT tarred - tankard...bloody heavy piece o' tin!!!

While this does not address 'Mayan' specifically it does address the 'line up of pirates' by nationality, where they came from, who they where before becoming 'pirates', and thus, what they were likely to wear: Now I know this contradicts what I have heard from others that prefer to claim that pirates where mostly "English, French, and Spanish" (this actually puts English only 3rd in line!) and that "...blah, blah, blah - most pirates where deserters of the navy and preferred to dress similar....etc, etc, etc"; but then, I did not write this, I only read it...and it does claim to take their quantities from "trial records and ship's logs". It also discussed how RED was a rare color then due to the way red die was created and that most likely when a pirate did manage to get hold of any red cloth they most likely displayed it as often as he could...until they loose it gambling, sell it for alcohol, or trade it to a dock trollop for pleasures (I will go with the later m'self!). It stated that during the GAoP there was some writing from some author stating "the pirates looked ridicules and funny as they disembarked their ship, with colorful and mismatched clothing...." - it described how pirates like to flaunt anything they obtained that would be worn by royalty or the wealthy (most likely referring to fashions in England, France, and Spain) for it was "their way of showing - Hey, I am a FREE man and will do as I please". Now back to Mayan; mostly all I gathered from their culture is that Spain used any they found as slaves to work the mines and maintain the cities, that be until the English (or other pirate type) came along and won the city, tortured the natives to tell where the treasure was hidden, and sometimes just killed them all. But no mention of 'finery' in the means of clothing - Gold and Silver, yes...but clothing...no mention. But of course, most writings and documentations - both modern and historic - tend to be bias to those who did the documentation; such as the Romans - in recent years there has been much debate and even some "documentary" films made that question the ancient Roman documents in terms of their describing their own culture and "ingenuity" v.s. that of the Roman so-called "Barbarians"....apparently while investigating and re-investigating some ancient digs and artifacts it has been declared that the Romans actually 'acquired' some of their technology from these so-called Barbarians (but after all, we all know that Rome was not built in a day - but it did burn down overnight!). I have also followed one guy's declaration that the English may not be as 'pure' as many claim to be and that a MUCH larger number (apparently "up to one third the populace") may have actually come from across the water on the eastern side (Germany, etc) when the then marshes flooded and the marsh people where forced to flee and now evidence that they fled to England is now being dug up (I can't recall the year this is said to have happened but apparently until recently it was believed these Marsh Peoples did not have the technology to make the trip, but now evidence on both sides of the 'pond' show otherwise...but they say "stead fast English historians still reject this notion...." - except for one....) Anyway, I know this does not answer the question of 'did any pirates where traditional Mayan garb', but it does add to 'where, who' pirates of the GAoP where (there was far more details but I think you get the idea in general) Now as for "How much would a modern pirate Pay for such garb" - well, sorry but at this particular juncture in time I have t' concur with Slopmaker Cripps' third assessment.

No word yet from me no-good fer nuth'n whelp brother, and I still think at this time that that bobbin make tis out o' me current day reach, but while searching some on that needle lace I ran across this link in a tutorial to a free online E-Book (full 44meg zip available near the bottom) Encyclopedia of Needlework by Thérèse de Dillmont www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/20776 Not too sure what all I be look'n at but the tutorial mistress sez it be very good stuff....sorry bout th' "free" and all, I know how that spoils th' fun fer so many pirates

Jump'n Jeremiah Sirens!! I took a look at some o' them thus-call'd Tutertorials ye mention - GEESH! One must need a fortune just t' get started! Pillows Bobbins Miles upon miles o' thread Patterns Needles and then the photos o' product under progress alone twas enough t' boggle th' wee mind o' a rum soaked pirate! I saw what look'd like a monstrous web o' thread streaming from a DOZEN or more apparatuses what made a entire ship's riggin look like mere child's play!! ...too bad too, as I recall me own younger brother once used to make bobbins for his SOCA (?) group many yarn ago, sold them under th' name o' WildWood I do recall...but he dropped outta such folly long ago, said the group got too political and spent too much time a bickering amoungst one another...don't know if he actually made lace or just th' bobbins though; I think I will write him see'n as how he now lives landlocked in Utah and I have not heard from him nigh 3 or more year at the least...

Lady Constance; if they be too 'flowery' then I meself would prefer t' keep seeking. but a fine leaf pattern would be acceptable indeed. I saw some good write ups on history of lace but in my haste did not take care t' note them for return (a bit too much on me plate all at once I suppose). Aye, perhaps me next trade should be in knitting, or this tatting ye speak about...not doing so well these days with computers and smart homes, this is for sure!

Ah Lady Barbossa, I thought I recall'd someone here making some shoes! I will drop Mary Diamond a message I will. Aye, m'lady caught eye o' the ones from Sarah Juniper called "Ladies Brocade, lined and bound with timber heels" and now I have trouble getting her t' look at others....but we just can not afford such a high fee once all taxes and import quarantine and all be added on! Tis sad indeed that all th' serious history makers are over there and mostly all we get at th' rayon and plastic....guess that be Hollywood fer ye

Aye, thankie much Keelhauled Conny...actually I already showed her that one (third one down) and am trying to talk her into them, they look fine and feminine (she's a real girlie girl pirate, dead-eye aim on a man's groin! OY!!) With some silken ribbon ties I think they would like nice on her. But alas she still wants t' see other choices (too bad I can't pull anchore and take her t' Europe, I seez many fine cobblers over there do'n 17th century shoes...even a nice silk pair; for $140 their coin - $240 USD Plus th' king's tax t' ship!!!)

Glad t' still see ye!! I still gots me leather Dice cup, they look and feel right fine now that I coated them with Stockholm Tar, and smell good too!!!

I know there once twas a thread with Women type shoes, but now I can not find it (aye, I used th' search but only found other 'shoe' threads) Me lady tis seeking Women style shoes, mid or early 17th century types. And yes we know o' Fugawee but she seeks something more "lady like" (perhaps that means something to someone?? I have no idea!) We have found several on European sites, some might nice ones I might add, but with th' value of a US dollar these days, we need t' shop state-side....anyone know of any cobblers on US soil do'n women's shoes??

A day late 'n two coin short but I will toss in me three pence; I was in th' first batch o' Loyalist Arms shoes, black, rough out. When they first came I could not get me foot inside but Loyalist did right by me and had a brand new pair made....no real explanation as to what happened but I have heard rumors. When me new pair came (almost one year since me first order) they Fit Like A Dream, as good as me caBoots (also custom ordered). I firstly took them hiking in me local hills t' break them in; about 3 miles th' first out I did, got bad blisters on me heels but they healed. Then I took them hiking again, over rocks and sand, down dirt trails and up hill sided; this time no blisters - they were ready for faire time! I have now walked in a parade through town with them, walked miles upon miles at almost two dozen faire with them, have drank till the bar tender tossed me out many a time with them, and I have walked upon several a ship deck with them. It has been over one year now since they dawned me feet, and I still love them! However; I am Extra weary o' water then wear'n them! I have however gotten rained upon (shortly) and walked through wet grass (wearily) and I have sacrificed many a good photo opt for the mere fear o' what submerging them in the water would do. Lets face it - True sea worthy pirates did NOT wear modern made Leather shoes *PERIOD* Oh, also, I cheat (hey - P.i.R.a.T.e.) I coat th' bottom o' me shoes with Shoe Goo, it also helps t' protect th' nails what where having their heads worn off from all th' concrete and paved walkways in our world t'day. As of this day, th' bottom o' me souls have much more wear t' show then th' pristine photo from Michaelsbagley (oh, and Michaelsbagley; try some Irish "whole grain" oatmeal, tis much more better then that flaky stuff!!) ...I digress; be'n on dialup 'n all; Mine be o' th' Early design as I too strive fer 1680 to 1710, and they be rough out, and black. Here be a link t' some photos taken round last summer, they still look as fine thou th' bottoms have a bit more wear now...but not much: Mad L's shoes - bout half way down th' page

Bloody 'Ell!! I got no e-bots and thought no one was reply'n! (got that fixed now!) Lots of good info indeed!! And aye, I have searched e-bay but t' no avail, yet. And I have been search'n wedding gown places as well...still hard t' find a piece 10"~12" long (I don't care how wide, I have a knife 'n thread )Also hard t' find lace what not be all 'flowery' 'n lady like, need some patterns like in that Picasa link. I have also found some nice full lace shawls, but much too pricy t' cut up, also found some lace women's head coverings what might work except they be TOO feminine in pattern t' me taste. I do however have a place I am heading t' Saturday what says they have lace - we will see. Anyway, me hunt continues. Me current cravat just has a 6" long lace tagged on th' end, and it has flowers at that; I want t' find more like in th' painting....I wonder where th' movies find all their lace? (geesh, and me with a girlfriend who works right across th' street from Fox Studio's costume shop....and STILL I get no answers! :angry: ) What has our world come to? Bloody Rayon, Plastic, and other Crap!!!

Where does one go t' find fine lace? Preferably 'leaf' or other pattern (Not flowers!) and preferably linen or silk (even cotton will do). I know where t' find Cravats but no one seems to know where t' find lace more then 6 inches long, I need at Lease 10 inch or better yet 15 inch! (and NO, pirates did NOT make their own lace - They Plundered It!!!)

Ahoy Oderlesseye! I intend t' raid again this Saturday fer a second round. I caught rumor that Talderoy may make an appearance as well; Lycan was thar shoot'n he's 'Cannon' last week (see me MySpace photos). Oh, who be that BIG one that raided th' ship with us at Oceanside last year? Th' one what toss'd th' little one over th' side? I got some shots o' he'm see'n Capt'n Samuel Bellamy; twas quite funny, first we be stand'n thar watch'n as th' wee snipes each go up and get a gift from Bellamy when he leans over 'n says "Hey, I am think'n o' gett'n in line behind th' kids...." so I said "Ell ya! Do it mate, I will get some shots". I think he's girlfriend got it on video as well - it was a hoot, he play'd th' mute 'n dumb one So Damn Well! Th' whole encampment was in stitches when Bellamy coxed out o' him he's first, 'n Only word: "ARRRRRRRRRRHHHHhhhhh!"

Well, do not give up on the non-aged ones just yet! I still want t' get one; but right now me recent move has strapped me finances tighter then a bilge spider's last web strand...(but I hear I may have some Spaniards what live down th' road from me now...Bwhahahahaha HA!)

Really now??? Actually, truth be told, me current hunt fer employment been look'n more...in yer direction Truly now, yer region be hogg'n all th' employment in these times o' woe....Texas, New Orleans, 'n South Carolina been mark'd with a red 'X' on me charts o' late *bwhahahahahaHaHaHAHAHAAAAaaaa*

Belay now Black Syren! I did say just 'a yarr closer' now I did! Ye still have much more good yarrr ahead ye do

If'n I sing a shanty 'n she run aground, then can I keeps'er?!! (me sing'n voice been know t' shatter a ship's compass 'n cause harden seamen t' jump o'er board scream'n it has) HAPPY BIRTH'N DAY Syren!! One More Yarrr Closer T' Becom'n A Genuine "Old Sea Cow"!!! A Toast, A Toast T' Syren: There be good ships, and there be wood ships, The ships that sail the sea. But the best ships, are friendships, And may they always be! 'n another one: Here's to women's kisses, and to rum, amber clear; Not as sweet as a woman's kiss, but a damn sight more sincere!

Just a shout out t' any MySpacers that be wonder'n why I am not respond'n t' their e-mails or approving any photo comments or new friends (I know a couple o' th' Pirates For Hire currently wait'n approval), but for th' last few days I have not been able t' get MySpace t' work at all! The pages all load with No Formatting, everything spewed down th' left side o' th' page, text overlapping, NONE of th' buttons respond when I click them (thus no responding t' e-mail, updating me status, or approving ANYTHING) I can not even post a bulletin. Sounds much like what Scarlett Harlott described a month or more ago except she was able t' post a bulletin about it, when I click th' button t' send - NOTHING HAPPENS AT'LL!! I have a SEVERAL requests in t' their techie support but so far they just keep tell'n me t' "Clear Cache and Cookies" or t' "Reset Profile" (accusing me o' adding some bad code or something) - hey, I be an MCSE, A+, Network+, two year computer science grad, 4 year Earthlink tech support, 5 year Sharp Electronic digital instructor (certifying technicians in troubleshooting), and much more - I KNOW HOW TO CLEAR CACHE AND COOKIES, and I haven't added ANY Code at'll t' their page, and I CAN'T RESET ME PROFILE; TH' BUTTONS DO NOT RESPOND!!! So, as I know some o' ye be hear as well, I was go'n t' put up a post on MySpace t' tell people I have not yet left (won't be until Oct 10th at th' earliest now) and for them t' reach me through th' Pub, but I can not post a bloody thing on MySpace....even their main page will not load, or other people's pages either (aye, I have use FireFox but I also tried in IE; techie, remember!! - all th' same same). Soooooo; if anyone be wonder'n, if anyone be bitch'n, if anyone really needs t' reach me - write t' me: personal e-mail, contact me here in th' Pyracy Pub, 'er write a note then stick it in a bottle (preferably rum) 'n toss it in th' sea