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You will find that in the GAOP there was no uniform as most would think today. The English Capt. did not begin to have a conformity of dress until the 1740's In "the prize of all the oceans" it has Anson complaining of not being recognized as the Capt. and later "...Anson improvised a navel uniform for his men." You will find many a painting here of Capt.'s and Admrl.'s http://www.nmm.ac.uk/mag/

Porn on the Bounty Actually hate to give this post a bump, but when I saw this I thoughts o' ye all on this barniskull bark.

If any read this and wondered- The Little Shop of Horrors TombstoneIt's like you're dreaming about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

Law don't go around here. Savvy?

I believe you are right, I stand corrected Black John. And you still got it! You people are gooood.

Sorry not read all 55 pages. How about.. "Go ahead and run you sniveling dog! Go ahead and run! I'm glad I hurt you, I'm glad, I'm glad."

Why thank ye Petee. I would have said it was given it seems they met a similar fate. Ok, I'll give it a go with one my favorite lines... "Watch yer back sir! Always watch yer back! They don't all fight like fine gentlemen."

"It Conquered the World" ? mst3k? that's not another computer problem is it?

Found a message in me bottle. (better than that cig butt I found there once, nothing like finding one o' them when you take a swig) Thought I would share. Pirate Party

was "White Squall" based on the windjammer ship "fantome"? If you don't know the story...The Windjammer "Fantome"

something sounds wacky.

wackiest ship in the navy?

Aye, Tempest be correct Military Heritage has a fine looking example that I been linked to for some time now. (Been drooling over the Lieutenants coat for far to long.) Post Capt. coat

maralin manson as barbosas' pirate mentor

I don't know what sort of gloves you are looking for but a maybe white latex type would work or most music stores ( the type with instruments) have a white cotton type.

Thank you GoF. I have worked with a group a few times that does 3rd quarter 17th century English and they only use match locks. Very simular stock.

Aye I ave a few o' their offerings as well. Pleased wit most o' it but I would caution if ye be close to bein' tween sizes that I ave found their breeches ta be a bit larger than most. A waistcoat and I believe they call it a coachmans coat I am happy with.

Bom Dia! Perhaps I be mistaken, but in 1650 would this gun not have had a match lock? What time did the match lock give way to flint?

3 ... 4 maybe? Wait! This just in! Michael Jackson sought for role as Singapore pitate who crews ship with orphans and "lost childern". Reportedly stated great humanitarian role and way to thank kids around the world for support in recent legal battles. *and might I add ... EEEUAHH!*

Boa Noite And if this sea man were to sew imself a new coat, when the one given im by the Royal Navy becomes worn, might he not use the old coat as a pattern to make is new coat? Keeping then the same sort of pattern but likely different cloth.

Just dropped from the fighting top. Norrington sighted - having turned Freebooter. The Commodore turns pirate after learning he is Jacks younger brother separated at a very young age when the Sparrow's family raft is attacked by a crock. (which inadvertently swallows a clock) Being lost for a time in the jungle, the boy is lead to a camp by a panther and a bear, where he is adopted by a wealthy English family. It seems time with an orangutan while in the jungle makes his learning the ropes in the Royal Navy a breeze.

OK this night the back is not so ill feeling from being to long hunched over the keyboard and squinting at the monator to see just what if anything is on that guys hat. This is what I have come to think and curious as to what ye think. The first picture you posted Black John looked like a plume to me as well ,spilling out over the brim. Then the more I squinted the more it looked to be a knot, as you pointed out very high up, maybe on the brim and perhaps tassels? The cockade as we are thinking of it (should it have existed in another time that I am not aware of) didn't come about till late 1600's when the hat brim got floppy in a 3 muskiteerish way. The cockade was mainly ribbon it seems in a bow, knot or combonation of the two. Then from the paintings and drawings I have seen, something I was not expecting. I am under the impression the cockade went out of fashion **this is not to say it was not used by any means** they were, but for the time period of say 1703 to 1715-20 maybe, It looks like a simple button would do. if anything was used at all. And here I agree with you Black John, I wondered myself why so many of the guys I was seeing were painted from the right when the cockade was on the left. One painting was of a concert , there were troops in the foreground (and if I recall correctly the only ones with hats on (this also surprised me)) only one was faceing to his left and he had a very rev war looking bow. This made me think that perhaps it is because a cockade was of no particular fashion interest to the painter. Just my thought. The hat would often be turned up on its own in a formed that way fashion. They seem to be often turned up in the front also. Is this the applepastie I have heard of? I have never seen a picture to go with the term. This would seem to make sense in my opinion since the brim shrunk back down in size. The NEED for a cockade was not really there ... so why have that big droopy bow hanging off yer hat? This was a time when civilian fashion followed the military style of the day was it not? But as I said this is not to say cockades were not used. I mean Blackbeard was fond of tieing bows in his beard and hair was he not? So not at all surprising if he chose to put one on his hat. It seems clear by the 1730's the cockade was back in style be that military political or what have you.

ARRR! Sink Me! But how I hate when this happens ta me. But at least I be able to correct meself. Now those o' ya tha knew better pick ya selves up off o' tha deck and stop yer lafin' I comment I made "And the cocked brim needin' an aid to stay that way. thus the cock aid - cockade. " I here by amend as ta it's origin. (in bed unable ta sleep avin' a feelin' thar be something not right about that) It seems it be thus : [Alteration of obsolete cockard from French cocarde from Old French coquarde, feminine of coquard vain, cocky from coq cock; as well as :A tilting or jaunty turn upward a jaunty or alert manner: To raise in preparation to throw or hit:

Ere be a French fancy I spied ye my be wantin' to set your eyes upon. Been down that street many a'time but not lookin' fer cockades, be seein' it a'new. http://www.costumes.org/history/leloir/vol...l10/20_1698.jpg Seems a bundle o' ribbon in bow fashion.

Aye, if I might be peggin' your sirs pardon with one more thought. I seem to recall the cocked hat did not come about till the brim of the muskateer hat had grown so wide as needin' to be cocked up. And the cocked brim needin' an aid to stay that way. thus the cock aid - cockade. I believe this was not until the late 1600's and a man of any station would likely had feathers or fancy trim or both as adornment. If I am very wrong av mercy upon me. I haply await to be corrected.