sea haugh

As far as i am aware and via the various sources that i have used, predominantly 18th century, all the confusion stems from the meeting of pirates on the west coast of Africa late 1719. At the point where Bartholemew Roberts and Edward England were the main men, they between them decided a meeting was needed as the collection of vessels between them was around 7. At risk of drawing yet more unwanted attention to the activities of theirs , it was decide they should split. Roberts went his own way, Edward England went round the Cape of Good Hope into the Indian Ocean. At the meeting they only had one quartermaster, who served all pirate vessels. This change when England went his way, John Taylor was quartermaster, who eventually became a commander of a vessel.(his ego soon took over) The vessels that England took were "victory" , "fancy" and a snow.(this is where the 2 infamous ships come from and who previously owned them. In amongst this lot La Buse had the snow, it was a vessel of his liking if you go by his form, quick . Plus John Plantain was there aswell, til he decided he wanted to be landed gentry. (with an evil streak) Incidentally, "Indian Queen" was commanded by another pirate, not La Buse. He had the snow. In relation to William Taylor....this is how letters were signed in return to the Cpt of the vessel who hunted him down to Portobello and who was attempting to persuade Taylor and crew to give up to the British,, when John Taylor was in command of "Cassandra" seeking out his commission from the Spanish. How did the Cpt know "cassandra" would be there? Such a stink was caused by this Cpt that he rattled a few official cages and received a blunt reply from Spain. As for Sigar... In my own personal searching, i can only find his mentioning at the taking of the "cabo" and no where else. although i do have a list of the European crew members of the "cassandra" at Portobello in seeking pardon, non of which mention Sigar/Seegar Cocklyn, did he not die after attack on fort Wydah? or was that another captain known to la buse , england and taylor. Am confused a little here. La Buse, got his reputation from being quick and calculated in his attacks, which leans more to the other nickname of his "Le Hawk". perhaps that is more modern poetic prose than reality, i don`t know. However it does suggest that he was a clever , quick thinking man who had his wits about him.

Name change was not uncommon, was it not? Edward Teach aka Blackbeard. Edward Seegar aka Edward England. Am still confused on Congdon "Flying Dragon" Also John Taylor aka William Taylor etc

Salut La Buse, I assume the source may have come from the colonial state papers, which are online and readable. As for 1672? i doubt it he would of been 58 at his death, hmmm. I Thought it would have more than likely been LeVasseur in the begining , which he changed as time went by and built a reputation for himself, as he was a proud pirate going by some of the text of when he was caught by cpt Hermitte who was pretty pleased with himself for capturing La Buse. I am working on the geneology of him from calais, but do not know if any records still exist given the number of battles france was dealing with around that time. Did he have family in the indian ocean, i believe so.

Hi All, Thank you La Buse, that is where i had them, in April 1716 off Hondura`s , via the testiments and examinations of other various pirates who said their piece in May 1717. It is prior to April 1716, that i wish to delve more into, to see how far back i can get it. I am also attempting to work it from the Calais , France side and build on it from his alleged birthplace.

Admittedly, i have not read that indepth on Burgess or Avery...yet. Am sure i will.. eventually. Plantain, Taylor, Williams, England, Roberts , La Buse, Angria and a few others are my interest at the moment. Nontheless, it is nice to see the quote. thanks

Hi, So in all liklihood, that letter could potentially have come from one of the pirates who may have been at Avery`s strong hold on St Mary`s , of which pirate John Plantain took much admiration from years later whilst his humble abode was at Ratner Bay, Madagascar. Interesting, and thanks for sharing. sea haugh.

Hi All, I to have a fascination with this particular pirate, and am interested to learn more, so may i pose a few questions of my own, but mainly to do with his time in 1717. Having spent his time with Benjamin Hornigold , Samuel Bellamy, Paul Williams in 1716, on leaving the group La Buse left roughly 9th Jan 1717 at isle Blanco, he went to the Bahama`s as was reported june 1717, his next sightings are off Antigua 5 months later. So my questions are ...where did he go? was it to do with the lack of finding a crew due to the pardon on offer to all pirates on the American coast`s? or did he go in search of his old hunting buddy Benjamin Hornigold? Did the dynamics change once Hornigold had been ousted by Samuel Bellamy and Paul Williams his side kick? Was it actually possible that La Buse was sighted further up the Amerian coast that was previously thought? Also , prior to 1716, what French vessels were taken by Hornigold? Is this where La Buse came to become a pirate? by capture and offer of joining. many thanks, sea haugh