The First Shot Has Been Fired

[The Pirate Bob]

I wanted to invite my fellow Pirates to take part in the launch of a new concept in American politics by checking out our inaugural newsletter, The Spirit of America.

Join us if you will in reclaiming America for the people!

[Quartermaster James]

Here's a concept for "reclaiming" America: Vote!

[Caraccioli]

Here's a concept for "reclaiming" America: Vote!

You know, I believe in the value of voting, but the choices we have...pah.

I once did a paper on the two-party system and the flaws entailed and...well...I just don't see it changing. Even with a pirate party.

(Nice bit of civics there...it all sounded vaguely libertarian - which would be appropriate to the party name I guess. Not enough info on his site though. I suppose it will grow with time. The devil with any political party is in the details. Oh, those details... )

[JohnnyTarr]

First of all by the time I am done with this you all will think I am cracked. That said, Now I have been to government education classes in my past. I have found that I have a real nack for them. People on the whole are easily manipulated. Others believe that the sky is green no matter what proof you give them. I have found a few basic (what I believe are) truths about politics.

A polititions first goal is to make his area of influance a better place. The second goal is to get reelected to be able to continue making his area better. Now there will always be people that believe that no matter how good something is that the job could be done better. It is not a matter of political parties, it is a matter of human nature.

We as the masses say that the two parties are corrupt. Yet we do not run for the positions. Only a fraction of people ever vote. We are the cause of the goverenment as it is. Untill we as the masses CARE about our future we will stay as is. Now you say "But Johnny, I do care. What can I do about the status quo?" I will ask you, "How much time do you send researching your politicions? How many sources do you use? So you know how your local elected officals are voting?"

Yes it is a full time job. Do we as the masses have the time for such an endevor? Some do, most don't. Think on these things. Get back to me. I will welcome any response and try to reply. I have found one thing that I will leave you with. Most people are conserned with one thing "Am I happy with the quality of my life right now?"

[oderlesseye]

Voting can be confusing when no means yes and yes means no.!

There should be a law against confusing language that blurrs what the ~ell we be votin on in the first place... jest me two cents..

[Patrick Hand]

There should be a law against confusing language that blurrs what the ~ell we be votin on in the first place.

What.... and put all the lawyers outta work....

[capnwilliam]

The beauty of American politics is that we have a strong two-party system.

Let's see: we have the Democrats - that's the liberal party. They stand for : a strong central government, internationalism, globalism, Zionism, massive deficits, open borders, and getting us involved in wars that don't benefit our country in any way shape or form whatsoever.

And then we have the Republicans - that's the conservative party. They stand for: a strong central government, internationalism, globalism, Zionism, massive deficits, open borders, and getting us involved in wars that don't benefit our country in any way shape or form whatsoever.

See the difference? :)

Capt. William

[Caraccioli]

I was just reading about Ronald Reagan in my Investor's Business Daily newspaper this morn' and they/he said something I found really interesting (as "small l" libertarian).

Reagan went around CA talking about how he had saved all this money by making various cuts. He would usually receive polite applause when he explained that something his administration had done had saved 200 million dollars or whatever. However, when he told a group in San Francisco that the state had saved $200,000 by mailing out some license renewals before the postage rate changed, the people stood up and cheered. Reagan apparently later said something like, "I discovered that the average person cannot easily comprehend saving $200 million dollars, but they can understand saving $200,000." (That is not a direct quote, it's paraphrased. I don't have the article handy.)

It's sort of sad, really. It's as if we're wired in such a way that we can't truly appreciate reducing government.

[JohnnyTarr]

Anybody else notice that the original poster has failed to look at this thread again. Just what I thought he was just another SPAMMER, just like the porn ones we get here.

[Tartan Jack]

Darn Spammers!!!!

Let's strap them onto the mouth of the cannons and fire away!!!!

(THAT would be FUN!!!!!)

[The Doctor]

I punted his first post out of the "Pirate Crews" forum because it had zilch to do with pyrate groups.

[JohnnyTarr]

Oh I am talking about the original Pirate Bob who has only made 3 posts. All about this subject. He must be really busy with his policical carreer.

[Caraccioli]

Anybody else notice that the original poster has failed to look at this thread again. Just what I thought he was just another SPAMMER, just like the porn ones we get here.

Ehn, possibly. Maybe even probably. (The page he refers you to is not that great anyhow. It's got this alleged "game" thing about American Civics.)

The topic has taken on something of a life of its own, though. I remember at TF.N (The Force.net) someone started this absolute idiot post titled "Hi" and then inside put the word "hi" or something like that. Completely worthless and useless. Yet it took on life of its own and become one of the largest threads on the forum. It became a "introduce yourself" thread and then morphed into a chat thread if I remember it correctly.

Note, I am not recommending that people go around starting silly, pointless threads on the forum - my delete thread finger might get itchy if'n y'all try that too often.

(<- This reminds me of Iron Bess.)

It's just an example of how mighty oaks from tiny acorns grow. Or maybe it's not.

[HarborMaster]

I voted. Many times....., It didnt matter..,I could rant.,about health care., the tax payer (Me) and the free ride people livin off me., and much much more. this is such a deep topic......... I decided about 5 years ago to bury my head in the sand and let the world go by., retire young.

Leave this place...., and let everyone here fight over it......, and collect my SSI when I am do..., after all I earned it.

I am still working on it.., the retire young part. I am happy for those who believe they can change it..,good luck on your endeavor., I am disolussioned., despomdent and disapointed with alot.

When I am diving.,and eating a mango.,sucking on Rhum in a tricorn.,11 degrees north of 0 I am happy and have No thoughts of North Korea., Iran.,Welfare., Taxes.,hatred violence.,this group or that group wanting thier rights., at my expense........, I think they should be grateful and go to work like me. Shut up an earn it............., and when I leave this place once a year to work on my dream for 3 weeks at a time., "All my troubles seem so far away". sooon soooon sooooooon :)

[PirateSSe]

The beauty of American politics is that we have a strong two-party system.

Let's see: we have the Democrats - that's the liberal party. They stand for : a strong central government, internationalism, globalism, Zionism, massive deficits, open borders, and getting us involved in wars that don't benefit our country in any way shape or form whatsoever.

And then we have the Republicans - that's the conservative party. They stand for: a strong central government, internationalism, globalism, Zionism, massive deficits, open borders, and getting us involved in wars that don't benefit our country in any way shape or form whatsoever.

See the difference? :)

Capt. William

Well put, and sadly true!!

[CaptainSatan]

Politics?

Next we'll have people talkin' 'bout their poxed stamp collections or their personal realationships with JC. Seems like there be plenty of common lubber forums fer that sort of mundane talk.

-CS

[Captain Jim-sib]

Stamp collections ? You may want to add this one...or use it to send your favorite bill or tax form !

http://www.cafepress.com/buy/pirate/gothic...pt_/fpt_/c_360/

[PirateSSe]

Politics?

Next we'll have people talkin' 'bout their poxed stamp collections or their personal realationships with JC. Seems like there be plenty of common lubber forums fer that sort of mundane talk.

-CS

Actually, there be a lot of mundane talk here!

[Mission]

Politics?

Next we'll have people talkin' 'bout their poxed stamp collections or their personal realationships with JC. Seems like there be plenty of common lubber forums fer that sort of mundane talk.

                          -CS

Actually, there be a lot of mundane talk here!

In this forum, there isn't much else.

Well, except my Chaos and the Brain Thread. Now that's anything but mundane. And the philosophy thread. Alas, I'll miss it...

[capnwilliam]

The beauty of American politics is that we have a strong two-party system.

Let's see: we have the Democrats - that's the liberal party. They stand for : a strong central government, internationalism, globalism, Zionism, massive deficits, open borders, and getting us involved in wars that don't benefit our country in any way shape or form whatsoever.

And then we have the Republicans - that's the conservative party. They stand for: a strong central government, internationalism, globalism, Zionism, massive deficits, open borders, and getting us involved in wars that don't benefit our country in any way shape or form whatsoever.

See the difference?  :)

Capt. William

Well put, and sadly true!!

Aye. Thanks!

We really have no leadership at all in this country, and no choice. Both major parties ought to become one: The Republicrats, or the Demicans. An elephant's head with an ass's ass!

Capt. William