MorganTyre Posted November 26, 2006 Posted November 26, 2006 Does anyone have a reference or references to period beliefs in sea monsters? What types were genuinely thought to exist at the time (mermaids?, the kraken?, serpents?) and which had already fallen out of favor. Also does anyone have any good sources of period illustrations of sea monsters?
The Doctor Posted November 26, 2006 Posted November 26, 2006 Here's some links of cryptids and cryptozoology: Cryptid Gallery Cryptozoology Wiki Entry on Cryptids Yo ho ho! Or does nobody actually say that?
MorganTyre Posted November 27, 2006 Author Posted November 27, 2006 Thanks. That's a good start but I was looking more for period (approx GAoP) descriptions and/or period illustrations.
Red Cat Jenny Posted November 27, 2006 Posted November 27, 2006 I assume this is what you seek... "Some of the earliest tales about huge, tentacled sea monsters date back to the 12th century when Norwegian seafarers described an awesome beast called a Kraken. By the 18th century the Kraken still had a fearsome reputation. In The Natural History of Norway, the Bishop of Bergen likened it to a "floating island," adding, "It seems these are the creature's arms, and, it is said, if they were to lay hold of the largest man-of-war [a ship], they would pull it down to the bottom." By National Geographic OUCHIES!!! Now hmmmm whar's me tartar sauce?! Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time...
Red Cat Jenny Posted January 2, 2007 Posted January 2, 2007 Searching through period etchings, I came across this one and located the poem to go with it. This would fall under period Lore I suppose.. Description of below: Engraving of the Kraken alongside a sailing ship, derived from similar earlier engravings, the earliest of which date from the 16th century. From Erich Pontoppidan’s (1698-1764) 'The Natural History of Norway', the only English translation of the work, published in London in 1755. Pontoppidan wrote: 'Amongst the many great things that are in the ocean...is the Kraken. This creature is the largest and most surprizing of all the animal creation'. Although huge sea-serpents off Norway's coasts had been described before, this was the first time they were called 'The Kraken'. The word was thus introduced into the English language -- Below the thunders of the upper deep; Far far beneath in the abysmal sea, His ancient, dreamless, uninvaded sleep The Kraken sleepeth: faintest sunlights flee About his shadowy sides; above him swell Huge sponges of millennial growth and height; And far away into the sickly light, From many a wondrous grot and secret cell Unnumber'd and enormous polypi Winnow with giant arms the slumbering green. There hath he lain for ages, and will lie Battening upon huge seaworms in his sleep, Until the latter fire shall heat the deep; Then once by man and angels to be seen, In roaring he shall rise and on the surface die. (C 1830 - Tennyson) Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time...
Lady Alyx Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 I myself was trying for find info on the Kraken or the Flying Dutchman the other day. I found some good stuff on Wikipedia. ~~~~Sailing Westward Bound~~~~ Lady Alyx
Story Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 "On the 6th of July 1734, when off the south coast of Greenland, a sea-monster appeared to us, whose head, when raised, was on level with our main-top. Its snout was long and sharp, and it blew water almost like a whale; it has large broad paws; its body was covered with scales; its skin was rough and uneven; in other respects it was as a serpent; and when it dived, its tail, which was raised in the air, appeared to be a whole ship's length from its body." Full and Particular Relation of my Voyage to Greenland, as a Missionary, in the year 1734 More horrid creatures from the Deep at http://www.strangescience.net/stsea2.htm And there is the passage most sailors of the period would be familiar with: But the LORD provided a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was inside the fish three days and three nights. Book of Jonah, 1:17 Dances for nickels.
Rumba Rue Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 I'm really going to worry if I see SpongeBob Squarepants show up....
Dorian Lasseter Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Spongebob ain't a seamonster.... but this guy might be.... Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org
Red Cat Jenny Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Awww he's only dangerous to his immediate friends..take a quote from Spongebob You know, if I were to die right now, in some sort of fiery explosion due to the carelessness of a friend...well, that would just be ok." LOL Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time...
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