Red Cat Jenny Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 During the course of it's sailing life a ship would no doubt need replacements of rigging and sail.. is there one or more areas where these were produced and purchased or traded for? Where did one go for the materials? Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time...
Fox Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Although there were certain towns (Bridport, for example) that were centres of the ropemaking industry, most port towns of any reasonable size would have had chandlers where canvas and cordage could be purchased. Most ships in fact carried a large amount of spare anyway for running repairs. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
JohnnyTarr Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 I had found this book on Amazon. I can not buy books this close to Christmas, but if I don't get it I plan on buying it. Sailmaker book Git up of your asses, set up those glasses I'm drinking this place dry.
Matusalem Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Foxe wrote: Although there were certain towns (Bridport, for example) that were centres of the ropemaking industry, most port towns of any reasonable size would have had chandlers where canvas and cordage could be purchased. Most ships in fact carried a large amount of spare anyway for running repairs. I can't speak for Bridport Dorset, but my old home town Bristol R.I. was a shipbuilding port that primarily specialized in sailmaking because some of the textile mills were located there, and still is. Think of it as similar to the auto industry where most parts manufacturers are located in northern Ohio and Indiana not far from Detroit.
Fox Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Yar, most ports of any size would have had the facilities for making much of what was needed close by. Even the tiny fishing town of Brixham had a long rope-walk. However, a lot of the time these small centres couldn't keep up with demand so you find other places more concentrating on an industry. For example, even though the major naval ports of England (Portsmouth, Chatham, Plymouth, London etc) had rope-walks, the navy still imported rope from abroad to meet demands. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
blackjohn Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 It is interesing to note that "naval stores" became enumerated goods in the middle of our period (1706). My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
Red Cat Jenny Posted November 19, 2006 Author Posted November 19, 2006 Found an interestinmg site with some rigging descriptions and pics. I'm sure there are others, but it also has some interesting linksThe Ships List Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time...
MorganTyre Posted November 20, 2006 Posted November 20, 2006 One minor correction to the link above. The difference between a sloop and a cutter isn't the number of foresails (though that is how it's distinguished now-a-days) but by the relative fore or aft position of the mast. This is why you'll see photo's of old boats (such as the friendship sloop) with a large array of foresails and yet still called a sloop. Note that the mast is very far forward. That's what defines it as a sloop. Of course it doesn't need to be THAT far forward to be a sloop. 1/3 or so of the way aft of the bow qualifies. As the mast approaches the half-way mark or so it becomes a cutter. Note that a sloop may carry multiple headsails but I don't think (emphasis on think) that a cutter may be rigged for only one. Here's another rig comparison website - Ships and Rigging
Coastie04 Posted November 21, 2006 Posted November 21, 2006 Another note about that link. Brigantine is described as a vessel with two masts, the fore square rigged and the main fore and aft. This is another example of a modern nomenclature. It's common now because ASTA supports it. Historically, that description was called a hermaphrodite brig, hermaphrodite schooner, or half brig. A true brigantine is fully square rigged on the foremast and has a schooner main sail with squares above it (see picture). Note that the main mast could easily be the fore mast of a square tops'l schooner. A brig, on the other hand, has a relatively smaller main sail that's used more as a balancing sail than a driving sail (as below). Coastie She was bigger and faster when under full sail With a gale on the beam and the seas o'er the rail
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