Cheeky Actress Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 Does any one have any reference to what ‘games of chance’ or games that would ‘pass the time’ during the GAofP? I have heard the loo, goose and wisk (sp?) were popular games of the time-period, but did pyrates play cards or did they limit themselves to dice (bones)? Member of "The Forsaken"
kass Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 Whist, darling. But to be honest, I don't know if it dates as early as the GAoP. We played it in our 1753 house. Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time!
The Doctor Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 Also "Noddy", "Bone-Ace", and "Picket" were popular. If you examine the ship's articles of some pyrate vessels, they specifically forbid "gaming at cards or dice." Yo ho ho! Or does nobody actually say that?
kass Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 Rockin'! Thanks Mad Jack! Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time!
Fox Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 I'd have to dig out references but whist goes back into the 17thC I believe, plus games like faro and cribbage. Dammit, I haven't unpacked my copy of Hoyle since the move... Don't forget board games like backgammon, chess, draughts, and nine-mens-morris. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
Cheeky Actress Posted September 28, 2006 Author Posted September 28, 2006 Also "Noddy", "Bone-Ace", and "Picket" were popular.If you examine the ship's articles of some pyrate vessels, they specifically forbid "gaming at cards or dice." Really?! Wow...interesting. Well, some Pryate Captains were God fearing Men at that...this would explain their ideas against gambling... Thanks Mad Jack Member of "The Forsaken"
The Doctor Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 Mainly, it reduced the chances for arguments and fights among the crew. :) Yo ho ho! Or does nobody actually say that?
Cheeky Actress Posted September 28, 2006 Author Posted September 28, 2006 I'd have to dig out references but whist goes back into the 17thC I believe, plus games like faro and cribbage. Dammit, I haven't unpacked my copy of Hoyle since the move...Don't forget board games like backgammon, chess, draughts, and nine-mens-morris. Faro?! Really?! Ed, is this game Irish in origin? I portray American Wild West and Faro is a game that I have played before. Do you think the rules have changed much? Member of "The Forsaken"
Fox Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 I don't know the origins of Faro I'm afraid. The version we paly is from an early edition of Hoyle I think (but I could be wrong). You have a board with a square for each card and the gamblers place coins on the square(s) they hope will win. The dealer then turns a deck of cards over into two piles, a winning pile and a losing pile. gamblers who bet on the winning cards get double their money back, the dealer keeps the money from the losing cards. To give the dealer a slight edge the first card in the winning pile is also a loser, thus there are 25 winning cards and 27 losing cards. Dead simple. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
The Doctor Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 An excellent source to consider: McGregor Historic Games Yo ho ho! Or does nobody actually say that?
Cheeky Actress Posted September 28, 2006 Author Posted September 28, 2006 Mad Jack..Foxe... I've heard that "loo" is a very old game. Do either of you two Boys know when it came about? Member of "The Forsaken"
Red Maria Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 I can think of Poc (early form of poker) 31 (early form of Blackjack), Shut the Box and Sweatcloth. The person who really knows 17th c. - 18th c. games is Mike Lampe of No Quarter Given.
MorganTyre Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 The best resource I know of for early games is Justin's rules to period games http://www.waks.org/game-hist/ Some of the games are a little early but most were still being played into the GAoP
Capt. Sterling Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 Mainly, it reduced the chances for arguments and fights among the crew. :) Aye, I totally agree with Mad Jack here!... I would think no gambling or drunkeness is to keep the men from getting into trouble by arguing or fighting amongst themselves... not because the Captains had a conscience ... Just reading Bart Roberts' articles and his history in no way shows the man to be God fearing.... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/
jessie k. Posted September 28, 2006 Posted September 28, 2006 Does anyone know how old the game koobs/kubbs is, or how late it would have been played? "When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear, and life stands explained." --Mark Twain
MorganTyre Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 Does anyone know how old the game koobs/kubbs is, or how late it would have been played? From Justin's game site (linked above) - "Kubb: A fun Swedish game in the throwing-things-at-things genre. Note: While I have seen it asserted that this game probably goes back to period, I've seen no evidence of that. " As far as how late it was played, it is still played (there is a link there for the british kubb federation) so I assume it was kept alive in one form or another through it's history (which may have extended through the GAoP)
jessie k. Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 Ah yes, sorry there, overlooked the obvious, but thanks! I've been told it's Viking, but nobody seems to know just how old. "When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear, and life stands explained." --Mark Twain
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