Mick MacAnselan Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 So I'm in need of a new tankard or other appropriate drinking vessel. What would be correct for GAoP period? TIA. The Dread Pyrate MacAnselan aka Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 What are you going to be drinking? That'll determine what you need to drink out of... I often just like to drink straight from the bootle. On second thought, you could just go here: http://www.tuckahoetradingco.com/ My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 or... http://www.juliasmith.com/historicpottery/index.html My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kass Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Or here: The Northerner Drool... Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick MacAnselan Posted October 3, 2005 Author Share Posted October 3, 2005 Blackjohn and Kass, many thanks for the links. I'm having trouble figuring out what's GAoP period and not on those sites though. Also, would either of these mugs have existed in the late 17th or early 18th century? TIA. Concord Mug Boston Mug The Dread Pyrate MacAnselan aka Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Lasseter Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Mick, both of those mugs would work, as they are 18th C repros..... Jas Townsend does very goode as they maonly sell to reenactors... These might be more in the 1750s timeline, but I can't see them being much different than 30 yrs earlier... a warning tho.... Hot beverages and metal mugs don't mix well... they heat up real fast... folks have burned their lips, etc. trying to drink their mornin' coffee out o' these and suffered for it... Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kass Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Hee hee! Been there. Done that. Spoke like a dork for half a day to prove it! I have a ceramic mug now. Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick MacAnselan Posted October 3, 2005 Author Share Posted October 3, 2005 Mick, both of those mugs would work, as they are 18th C repros..... Jas Townsend does very goode as they maonly sell to reenactors...These might be more in the 1750s timeline, but I can't see them being much different than 30 yrs earlier... Thanks Dorian. Hmmm... that's what I was a little worried about, i.e. that they may be a little later than GAoP. Does anyone know a pewter or other mettalic mug/tankard that's GAoP for sure? TIA. The Dread Pyrate MacAnselan aka Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Midnight Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 There were leather "blackjacks" as well... "Now then, me bullies! Would you rather do the gallows dance, and hang in chains 'til the crows pluck your eyes from your rotten skulls? Or would you feel the roll of a stout ship beneath your feet again?" ---Captain William Kidd--- (1945) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I Like my Drinking Horne i Got from The Horn Shoppe. It Keeps my Cold Drinks cold and my hot drinks hot without burning your lips. I also tied some knotwork around where i grip it as not to burn or chill my hands off. and you can hang it anywhere or just stick it in the ground. - 10 Fathoms Deep on the Road to Hell... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 But are drinking horns "period correct"??? I don't know, but it seems unlikely. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I dont see why not, I mean it seems logical esspecially for the lower classes since it is premade, sturdy, and wouldnt require a lot manhours so the price would be inexpensive. And i think they had cattle in the GAoP - 10 Fathoms Deep on the Road to Hell... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Hmmm... that's what I was a little worried about, i.e. that they may be a little later than GAoP. Does anyone know a pewter or other mettalic mug/tankard that's GAoP for sure? TIA. I believe Dorian is correct. My research tells me those (or at least the first style) is actually termed a cann. And they seem to date from mid-1700s. Ooops! Gotta run! Gonna go catch a movie! If I find out anything more I'll post it. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjohn Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I dont see why not, I mean it seems logical esspecially for the lower classes since it is premade, sturdy, and wouldnt require a lot manhours so the price would be inexpensive. And i think they had cattle in the GAoP I've seen horn cups. I've just never seen a horn cup that was still shaped like a horn, in the era. But I haven't seen everything, that's for sure! My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I'll Look into it. If I'm wrong, hey it aint the first time, an it wont hurt my feelings. I have both a tankard and a horn. I just prefered the horn due to the thermal advantages i stated and ease of carrying. - 10 Fathoms Deep on the Road to Hell... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I just found this Quote at British Archaeology Drinking horns, for example, are found from at least 550 BC at Hochdorf until the 18th century in Scotland and Ireland. ...and the research continues... - 10 Fathoms Deep on the Road to Hell... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I got a difficulty believing in post Viking-era drinking horns. Horn cups with flat bottoms I've certainly come across, but with the point still on? I dunno, it's not like they couldn't afford/didn't have anything more sensible. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 And these from the 18th and 19th century Horn Beakers, mugs and Bottles - 10 Fathoms Deep on the Road to Hell... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Horn cups with flat bottoms I've certainly come across, but with the point still on? You may be absolutely right, Foxe. Please understand, I am not trying to rewrite History, or prove the existance of somthing that never was, Merely trying to open up the options a bit. And NO disrespect is meant to anyone as I Value your opinions - 10 Fathoms Deep on the Road to Hell... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I don't mind people not agreeing with me . I offer my opinions and research freely, ignore them or accept them as you will. There were some really nice horn beakers in that link Deadeye, but you notice they all had flat bottoms. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I Did notice, Foxe. And have since been trying to figure out how to adjust mine, accordingly. It makes me a bit sad, since right now, it holds a 20oz pepsi perfectly, coming to just within a half inch of the lip.. *Lamenting* if ONLY i still had my anvil and forge..... - 10 Fathoms Deep on the Road to Hell... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 What peaked my interest were the Horn Bottles. I didnt know that cow horn could be manipulated in that way. By the By.. my Wife throws pottery and i was considering having her make me a rum bottle, would clay bottles be correct? - 10 Fathoms Deep on the Road to Hell... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Boiled horn becomes quite supple so it can be used to make all sorts of things. If you wanted something very authentic and very maritimey to keep your rum in, how about having your wife make you a ceramic case bottle? Case bottles were most frequently made of glass, but I have seen ceramic examples, including some blue and white painted chinese porcelain ones from the early 18thC. Case bottles come in various sizes, but the important thing is that they're square (so they fit nicely in a case), and most commonly they have similar proportions to a wine bottle, but with a much shorter neck. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Good to know, Foxe. I guess Now i have to give in and actually let her start throwing again... it makes such a mess So do you think that if I Boiled the Bottom of my horn, it would become pliable enough to attach some prefab round plate to? - 10 Fathoms Deep on the Road to Hell... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman of Fortune Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Some more drinking (and other interesting items) containers http://goosebay-workshops.com/LANTERNS-SCO...CES-CHANDELIERS How about good (but inexpensive) onion bottles. I can only seem to find them for over $30? GoF Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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