Dorian Lasseter Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Day-to-day fashion... I would think very few prefered boots over shoes... A few years back we had an exhibit of 17th and 18th C paintings. I don't think I saw one set of boots on anyone... I did learn alot on how stockings were worn... they weren't always the tight, form fitting style, some even looked like leg wraps and not stockings... Back to boots... what is the purpose of the piece of leather where a buckle woud be that's kind of shaped like a butterfly? I've never gotten an answer for that... Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Petee Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Well thinking practically, I would have preferred boots over the shoes. They would help keep your feet warm and dry, they would offer some protection from rope burns, splinters and just other ship type elements, and as with the shoe the heel could help you climb rigging. I don’t believe that they would have thrown them away either, these are poor desperate men, hunted criminals, they would have kept what ever belongings they had, make them last for as long as they could. I’m not saying that is all they wore, me myself would prefer a choice shoes, boots and barefoot. As for not seeing them in many illustrations and paintings, like I said earlier when one posses for a portrait, painted or drawn, they dress nice and boots were not as fancy as buckle shoes and stockings. You wouldn’t wear your work clothes to go get a picture taken would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Petee Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Foxe, I just found out where I got the second picture. It is from the "Pirates Own Book" as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callenish gunner Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 boots were a military option and for those who rode horses most well heeled gents owned boot if they rode ....in most portraits it was not fashionable to show a gentleman in his rough wear as he would wear in the country or into battle .........that butterfly looking piece of leather was a stirrup chap it kep the stirrup from rubbing a hole in your boots and offered a bit of cushion to your ankle from the rubbing and also allowed you to wear your spurs with out wearing a mark on your boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Lasseter Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Thankee CG.... Tha' makes sense... Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 The butterfly shaped piece of leather on the front of riding boots (called, I believe, the "butterfly") is to prevent the boot being worn away by the stirrup. The butterfly takes all the wear and is a lot cheaper to replace than the whole boot. With regards to portraits and illustrations - we have portraits of people in all sorts of dress, from elegant court wear to hunting outfits. On the other hand many of the illustrations in question are not people posing for a picture, they are people in their working gear, the clothes they really wore. On the one hand, no I wouldn't pose for a photo in my work clothes, but on the other hand if I wanted illustrate a mechanic I would do him in his overalls, not his Sunday best. It all depends on the type of picture in question. Pirates Own Book: As I said before, it was illustrated 100 years after the events it describes and the pictures certainly shouldn't be taken as evidence of anything. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Lasseter Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Bloody hell Foxe! How many hands does ye have??? Exactly... the paintings we had were just that, a whole mix of classes... Yes, many look to be courtly... but alot were "scenes from the working man" The butcher, the baker.... etc... I just wish I had more time to study them, which I didn't while they were here.... Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 At least 4 it would seem - perhaps I was borrowing someone else's... Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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