Gentleman of Fortune Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 Stop! go no further till you check out this site! some of you have seen it before but its invaluable for 18th Century Women's clothing Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression!
blackjohn Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 but it's a good dizzy because I didn't even know the proper place to start. How would you define proper? I ask because, as you may or may not know, but as Hawkyns points out, there are two distinct schools of thought on the subject. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
Fancy Posted May 18, 2005 Author Posted May 18, 2005 to order? to have fitted? good manufacturers? or could I even make my own? I want supportive and eye-catching, yet not too "out there" and comfort. I'm also willing to pay for quality. Fancy
Charity Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 WOW That dress is fantastic fancy! Oh man..if i had money LOL..it's a dream dress...love it
fergal Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 Charity if your going to be using any crafters for your peices, always keep in mind the craftsmans creed; speed .. quality .. price .. pick two.
Charity Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 Uhm..you mean if i let them be made? I hope to make them myself in the future but right now even buying fabric is out of the question, i'll keep it in mind though :)
Rumba Rue Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 The dress is nice, but again as you stated, not sure about the bodice. If you shell out 200.00 bucks for that outfit, only to find out the bodice isn't going to work for you...you're out a lot of money. Do go to the faires, even if it's in another state that might be near you. Try them on to see what suits you best. Rumba Rue ** **
Duchess Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 this is what I've been having my eye on for a while... my only reservation with it is the bodice... it seems to come over the bust instead of under.dress Here's what happens with bodices: If it looks like it goes under the bust or that is what you want, if you have any mammaries at all, you will have absolutely NO SUPPORT. Be prepared to flop over the top, out the sides and everywhere else inertia will induce your breasts to go. Simply wearing a shirt will not solve the problem, shirts are not meant nor designed to do that. To avoid this problem you need a bodice that comes up at least half way over your bust. It is this support from the bottom, sides and front that produces the ogle worthy cleavage and not dangerous squishy pendulums subject to the capriciousness of physics. No matter how great you look with them out and amuck, you'll look ten times better with them properly displayed. I promise. Duchess
Gentleman of Fortune Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 Can you provide a visual aid.... lets say a JPG for this? We'd like to make up our own minds please If it looks like it goes under the bust or that is what you want, if you have any mammaries at all, you will have absolutely NO SUPPORT. Be prepared to flop over the top, out the sides and everywhere else inertia will induce your breasts to go. Simply wearing a shirt will not solve the problem, shirts are not meant nor designed to do that. To avoid this problem you need a bodice that comes up at least half way over your bust. It is this support from the bottom, sides and front that produces the ogle worthy cleavage and not dangerous squishy pendulums subject to the capriciousness of physics. Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression!
blackjohn Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 hence, GoF's suggestion of going to the staymaker site! Nothin' makes cleavage like a well fitted set of stays... :) My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
Fancy Posted May 18, 2005 Author Posted May 18, 2005 Duchess, you crack me up... and your point is right on... I know it needs to come up a bit over, or the hang-over will happen... I just don't want it to come way over (like the one in the pic appears to do) and diminish anything that might otherwise be pleasing... omg, this whole thread has me thinking of Rumba's siggy... I'm indeed laughing at myself, for here is a whole thread seemingly dedicated to the support of my breasts! LOL!!! oh well! I'm sure this thread may help someone in the future as well as helping me right now. And I really do appreciate the help! Fancy
Duchess Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 Okay (photo) graphic evidence. Center lady, an exceptionally well fitting bodice. http://www.joatmon.com/renpics/pics/MOM&DAUG.jpg ill fitting not really a bodice or anything at all, this one is only medium bad. http://www.caffeineod.com/shawn/ren/mini-1...05-0516_IMG.JPG You know it's odd, I see prime examples of what not to wear for a bodice, quite frequently in person, but I've searched all over the web, and it seems that no one has photographed them. I wonder why? Duchess
Rumba Rue Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 LMAF!!! Fancy, I'm sure Mad Jack would love to hold your breasts up. Duchess you are soooo right! I've seen some very top heavy gals just hanging horribly out because of ill fitting bodices. I kid you not, I've tried every friggin' style of bodice and not one of them (including ones from vendors at faires), seems to give me the support I'm looking for. Course I have a situation where one hip is higher than the other, one shoulder is lower than the other - hence my having to make my own bodices. I swear I got boobs, (38-C) but the darn things keep wanting to slide back down into normal position.... Hmmm, ropes and pulley's might work too. Rumba Rue **Does fruitcake flush?**
Patrick Hand Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 it's not the corset the guys are looking at...it's the mound of soft supply flesh pushing up above the corset the men's eyes are focused on. WELL there went my mind fer the night............... (just to keep this ON topic, I have made a few bodices for ladys.... but what I make are more of a low cut tight vest....... It's the way the blouse/chimese is made that keeps a woman from "falling out" (drat.....) )
HarborMaster Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 *Grinning* I am not Lost .,I am Exploring. "If you give a man a fire, he will be warm for a night, if you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life!"
Gentleman of Fortune Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 I don't know Duchess... I am still not convinced More pictures please!!!!!!! Come aboard my pirate re-enacting site http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/ Where you will find lots of information on building your authentic Pirate Impression!
Fancy Posted May 19, 2005 Author Posted May 19, 2005 (just to keep this ON topic, I have made a few bodices for ladys.... but what I make are more of a low cut tight vest....... It's the way the blouse/chimese is made that keeps a woman from "falling out" (drat.....) ) I didn't think the blouse had much to do with it... other than maybe it being too low cut or not... is that what you're referring to? LMAF!!! Fancy, I'm sure Mad Jack would love to hold your breasts up. Why Rumba, whatever gives you that idea??? Ok... I'm a 38 DD and don't want to fall out, or down. I want a nice tight fit and plenty of that nice fleshy mound above the top. Seems the only way I can find what's gonna work best is to just try a few, and get opinions. Fancy
PyratePhil Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 Ok... I'm a 38 DD and don't want to fall out, or down. I want a nice tight fit and plenty of that nice fleshy mound above the top... If nothing else, I think you've just guaranteed a VERY long life to this thread... ...Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum... ~ Vegetius
Charity Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 Another piece of advice...don't make a satin blouse! I tried my bodice on last night and the desired effect was back but then i reaLized..on the event while wearing it, the bodice slipped upwards and was too high The satin blouse is soooo smooth and slippery it made the bodice slide upwards..so i'll have to find a way to prevend that.. Still leaves me to take the ~~ bend bonings out and replace them with something slightly firmer..
Fancy Posted May 19, 2005 Author Posted May 19, 2005 Thanks for the tip, Charity ... altho satin isn't something I wear often, unless it's lingerie. I can imagine it slipping around where ye don't want it, but I bet it feels good. If nothing else, I think you've just guaranteed a VERY long life to this thread... oh, I doubt that... there's only so much to be said about the subject... but I will post the pics here, I reckon, when I finally get "them" rightly outfitted Fancy
Hawkyns Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 Or ye could post the before and after pics, and maybe a step by step of the fitting Hawkyns Cannon add dignity to what otherwise would be merely an ugly brawl I do what I do for my own reasons. I do not require anyone to follow me. I do not require society's approval for my actions or beliefs. if I am to be judged, let me be judged in the pure light of history, not the harsh glare of modern trends.
Black Hearted Pearl Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 And you thought the moderators were prudes? Nay, we naught be prudes. We just like to sail on the edge of reason, but we be good pirates. ~Black Hearted Pearl The optimist expects the wind. The pessimist complains about the wind. The realist adjusts the sails.
Hawkyns Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 Pearl, I have been accused of many things in my life, most of them legitimately, but I have *never* been accused of being a prude. Immoral, perverted, shameless, and hedonistic, perhaps. The right Hand of Satan, oh definitely. But NOT a prude. Hawkyns Cannon add dignity to what otherwise would be merely an ugly brawl I do what I do for my own reasons. I do not require anyone to follow me. I do not require society's approval for my actions or beliefs. if I am to be judged, let me be judged in the pure light of history, not the harsh glare of modern trends.
Charity Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 And anyone who thinks i am a prude please go to fanfiction.net and read fanfics of Barbossaspearl I do believe it gave Phil a fit (You ok mate? )
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