grapeshotjoe Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 Im sure this has been asked before but what the hell. I sould know this anyway What is the meaning of the fraze no quarter given? And are there any outher examples of crafty pirate sayings to live by.
the Royaliste Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 I believe that there are zillions of phrases that endure, but most are ship related, not pirate; finding their origins from the Navies that ruled the world at the time. No Quarter given is a battle term, not a 'pirate' one specifically. Sorry to burst your bubble, but remember, 'pirate' was just another part-time job for most........
Indigojack Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 Grapeshotjoe, I'm not sure the Royaliste fully answered your question. In pyracy, it ment no mercy would be shown if the victim did not surrender ; no lives would be spared, and no chance of freedom Together we shall sail the sea, best friends we'll always be. But, if we should ever disagree, the hell with you, and hurray for me.
Lady Seahawke Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 In other words...strike your colors, prepare to boarded or we will do it over your dead bodies anyway. This was shown by a change of flags on the attacking ship...the Black flag indicated you are about to be boarded...best drop yer anchor and surrender. The Red one said we gonna do it anyway so you best run like hell...otherwise we be stepp'n over your boney dead souls. Most didn't wait for the red to raised. They struck their colors...the attacked taking their flag down as a sign of surrender. Lady Cassandra Seahawke Captain of SIREN'S RESURRECTION, Her fleet JAGUAR'S SPIRIT, ROARING LION , SEA WITCH AND RED VIXEN For she, her captains and their crews are.... ...Amazon by Blood... ...... Warrior by Nature...... ............Pirate by Trade............ If'n ye hear ta Trill ye sure to know tat yer end be near...
the Royaliste Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 Grapeshotjoe,I'm not sure the Royaliste fully answered your question. In pyracy, it ment no mercy would be shown if the victim did not surrender ; no lives would be spared, and no chance of freedom No Quarter isnt 'pirate', it isnt even particularly nautical, which was my point.....Originally invented by the Greeks, Romans, or somesuch, it's a military term, which would be understood by anyone under fire....DeGuello,' No Quarter', lotsa applications, manylanguages, same meaning...Jolie Rouge, etal.............
corsair2k3 Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 Yep. And the use of the red flag as a signal of no quarter was in use at least as early as the 30 Years War. One amplification/clarification: "NQG" was a two-way challenge. No mercy/surrender to be either given OR asked. The Corsair
Lady Seahawke Posted January 31, 2005 Posted January 31, 2005 yep to both... it is just most think of it as being in use during the age of piracy. Lady Cassandra Seahawke Captain of SIREN'S RESURRECTION, Her fleet JAGUAR'S SPIRIT, ROARING LION , SEA WITCH AND RED VIXEN For she, her captains and their crews are.... ...Amazon by Blood... ...... Warrior by Nature...... ............Pirate by Trade............ If'n ye hear ta Trill ye sure to know tat yer end be near...
Fox Posted January 31, 2005 Posted January 31, 2005 The use of red flags can probably be traced back further than that, the Elizabeth Bonaventure, one of the English ships which sailed against the Spanish Armada in 1588, was equipped with several flags and streamers, including a "bluddey flagge" Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
Red Maria Posted January 31, 2005 Posted January 31, 2005 "NQG" was a two-way challenge. And a very fine magazine on all things piratical too! :) Shameless plug for Jamaica Rose.
Rogue Mermaid Posted January 31, 2005 Posted January 31, 2005 No Quarter given also could mean that yer ma wasn't let'n you play with the gumball machines as a kid.... Hee hee hee
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