Fox Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 That's not the sort of thing you should judge a book by (IMHO, the inside is even better) Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swashbuckler 1700 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 How much is has content that could be called commentary (not documents)? "I have not yet Begun To Fight!"John Paul Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Each chapter has an introduction of between 1 and 3 pages, and each* document has an introduction varying in length from a few lines to over a page. Likewise, the documents vary in length from around a page to 19 pages. There are also footnotes, mostly quite brief but one or two fairly large ones. If you want it properly quantified, the documents constitute about 84% of the total book. Of the documents, the testimony of pirates makes up 41%, that of forced men is 20%, victims' testimony makes up 17%, trials contribute 9%, and miscellaneous documents make up the remaining 13%. Just for giggles, here's the contents list: Pirates1. Samuel Burgess2. William Phillips 3. John Sparks4. David Evans5. Thomas Joy6. Richard Sievers7. James Kelly on two decades at sea8. Theophilus Turner9. John Brent10. Thomas Bagley11. Michael Hicks12. Richard Roper13. John Barrett14. The Will of Joseph Jones15. A Matelotage Agreement16. John Brown17. Robert Collover writes to a shipmate’s widow18. A Pirate Reference19. Dear British Apollo20. Thomas Nichols and Francis Leslie surrender21. The Whydah survivors tell their stories22. David Herriot and Ignatius Pell on Blackbeard and Stede Bonnet23. Bartholomew Roberts writes24. Walter Kennedy’s deposition25. Walter Kennedy’s views on the pirate life26. James Bradshaw27. Richard Luntly28. The petition of John Massey and George Lowther29. William Ingram30. Alexander Thompson31. Philip Roche 32. Thomas Lawrence Jones33. James Williams34. John Smith, alias John Gow35. Robert ReidForced Men36. Philip Middleton37. Henry Watson38. John Ireland39. Richard Appleton and others40. Henry Hunt41. John Matthews42. Bridstock Weaver43. Henry Treehill44. Richard Moor45. Edward Evans46. William Whelks47. John Fillmore’s narrative48. Nicholas SimmonsPirates’ Victims49. Mutiny on the ship Adventure50. Israel Pippany and Peter Freeland51. George Weoley52. Edward North53. Thomas Grant54. Edward Green55. Captain Mackra’s ship taken by Edward England56. Richard Lazenby, a prisoner of John Taylor57. Jacob du Bucquoy describes life in the company of John Taylor58. Andrew Kingston taken by Bartholomew Roberts59. Richard Hawkins’ account of his capture by Francis SpriggsTrials60. Trial of Gibbons and Bournal61. Trial of Bridstock Weaver and William Ingram62. Trial of Mozley et al.Miscellaneous Documents63. Adam Baldridge64. The battle between the Dorrill and the Mocha65. A pirate’s widow seeks her inheritance66. A letter to a pirate67. Prices of pirate supplies68. John Vickers and the arrival of the pirates at New Providence69. Pirates surrender to Captain Pearse70. Certificate of Pardon71. Inventory of a pirate sloop72. The end of Blackbeard73. Captain Davis on the African Coast74. Lists of ships taken by pirates75. The end of Bartholomew Roberts76. Inventory of goods in the possession of Pierce and Andrew Cullen *Not quite every document has its own introductory text, some with similar themes have been introduced together. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Paperback now available: http://www.lulu.com/shop/et-fox/pirates-in-their-own-words/paperback/product-21707029.html Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregF Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I'll have to get a copy. Looks great. Greg F http://gregflemming.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 And last but not least, the eBook: http://www.lulu.com/shop/et-fox/pirates-in-their-own-words/ebook/product-21708777.html Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsbagley Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 How does the binding compare between the hardcover and softcover (anyone bought from Lily before), just trying to make an informed buying decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I don't know, but in a few days I should have a copy of each in my hands and will be able to tell you. FWIW, I'm expecting the binding of the soft-cover to be softer than the binding of the hard-cover, which will be harder. The binding on the eBook is rubbish. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Fox's latest looks wonderful. When I have money and time (sigh), this is definitely next in line on my to-buy list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red John Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Ahoy All! Foxe's new book, "Pirates In Their Own Words", is ON SALE! I recently received an electronic message as follows: "It's a Friday Flash Sale! We all love Fridays and we thought we'd get the weekend off to a great start with a 13% off flash sale. Why 13%? We just love the number 13. Through July 21, save 13% on all Standard and Premium books with code FLASHY13. Shop now. Your friends at Lulu.com" yours, aye- John (Not sure if this is the proper thread for this posting, but I wanted to get the word out! Please move to wherever it best fits) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit.Privateer Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Review of Ed T. Fox,, ed. Pirates in Their Own Words: Eye-Witness Accounts of the “Golden Age” of Piracy, 1690-1728. Fox Historical, 2014. http://www.lulu.com/shop/et-fox/pirates-in-their-own-words/hardcover/product-21700684.html http://www.lulu.com/shop/et-fox/pirates-in-their-own-words/paperback/product-21707029.html http://www.lulu.com/shop/et-fox/pirates-in-their-own-words/ebook/product-21708777.html In the world of transcribed published primary sources for pirate history in the 1690s-1720s, the selection is limited. But Dr. Fox’s new collection of 76 primary source documents of varying length (from short letters and testimonies to trial transcripts) is a refreshing new edition to the study of pirate history. Before this work, the most recent large collection of Golden Age of Piracy-specific documents came in the form of Joel Baer’s 4-Volume work. Baer’s work, while remarkable, mostly concentrated on large works and trials. His selection was also of the more well-known primary sources for pirate history (in particular, the trials). One other concerning issue is the availability – the set is rarely seen outside of a selection of libraries reference sections. On the other hand, Fox’s work is comprised of numerically more works, a mix of documents in terms of notoriety in pirate history, and more wide availability since Fox’s work is the first of these pirate document collections to be available through digital download. The selection of sources presented in this collection cover the entire width of the Golden Age of Piracy of 1690 to 1728, and only that era. The other collections often branched out to cover piracy before and after this period. The collection also tries it’s best to bring the voice of the pirates themselves forward, which explains the title of this work, “Pirates in their Own Words.” But, as the introductions written by Dr. Fox at the beginning of each document explains, sifting through the bias of period documents is much easier said than done. But many of the documents are also from witnesses of piracy and/or victims of piracy. The selection of the documents brings about many intriguing pieces of information and insights into the lives and actions of pirates. Some of the documents, I’ve personally heard about, but never seen before. This includes letters from a wife and another from a widow of pirates in Madagascar in the 1690s. Overall, this collection has a strong representation of pirates serving in the 1690s, likely a byproduct of Dr. Fox’s work on pirate Henry Every’s history (that eventually produced the book, King of the Pirates). Another work that attracted my attention was a thorough description of a battle with a pirate – since battle accounts with pirates are relatively rare (since many encounters with pirates resulted with the civilian target surrendering instead of fighting). Finally, it was with great joy to see that the work of Jacob du Bucquoy is being translated after all these years (the non-English works about piracy from the era often go neglected in studies of piracy). For those that study pirate history, especially those looking to approach it from an academic level, it is essential to look at the original documents (and not just Charles Johnson’s General History of Pyracy). With collections of transcribed documents only coming to light on rare occasions, not to mention be available to a more general audience, Pirates in their Own Words is a priceless publication to possess, and who better to bring such sources to us than an academic historian of piracy whose work is helping bring new light to pirate history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BellamyCay Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) When and where did this get announced? Plus having Kenneth Kinkor involved also advances my interest. Were they only trial transcripts? The only think I know of that might be remotely related to this is Kinkor's Whydah Sourcebook that never got published before he died. As it so happens... in a manner of speaking, the torch has been passed to me; publishing the Whydah Sourcebook in an appropriate format was one of Ken's last requests to me, which I have been working on for nearly two years, and I am very nearly finished with reformatting and re-editing the mammoth Work (and it does in fact contain quite a bit more than just the court trials). It will also contain new historical data obtained since Ken's sad passing (I was one of the very last to see him in this world, and I cannot express the level of grief which we are still suffering more than a year later). I am of the hope that it should be available to the general public within the next 6 months, after final approval from Mr. Clifford, of course. It is my further hope that anal critics will not shred it like a school of bloody piranha, as I have seen ignorantly done to such superior historians as Woodard, Cordingly, and Konstam. There's nothing more revolting to Academia than an uppity academic. Edited September 24, 2014 by BellamyCay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 It is my further hope that anal critics will not shred it like a school of bloody piranha, as I have seen ignorantly done to such superior historians as Woodard, Cordingly, and Konstam. There's nothing more revolting to Academia than an uppity academic. Lol, that almost sounds like a challenge! The thing is, that once a book gets published and read, there are going to be people who disagree with the conclusions, the interpretations, the methodology, and a thousand other things. It's a fact of life for historians, and we just have to get over it. Sourcebooks tend to come in for less criticism because there's less new material to criticise, but I don't know of a single book that the entire community of historians has got behind and judged flawless. It's not being uppity, it's having and expressing a different point of view. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baylus_Brooks Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) The printers for Quest for Blackbeard are offering a 25% discount on print versions till Christmas plus whatever the revolving weekly discounts are, as listed on their home page http://www.lulu.com/home. Quest is available also in ebook/Kindle format and is the most updated version. Go to http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bcbrooks to order. This is quite a savings! Edited September 22, 2017 by Baylus_Brooks Baylus C. BrooksCandidate in Maritime Studies ProgramEast Carolina UniversityProfessional Research Historian at Brooks HistoricalAmazon Author PageLinkedIn Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 It's been a minute for this topic, hasn't it just? This question comes up so often in social media that at some point after the last comment up there, I decided to create a list of sources I think are good essential. Note that the vast majority of them are primary sources from the period. I believe if you really want to read about pirates, you should go to the source first. Then you will have a firm basis if you want to delve into the modern authors comments on the original material. The best modern authors explain the context of the source material IMO. The majority just recite the facts, hopefully putting them in better order and included period sources of information not found in most other books. The worst try to 'interpret' it for you or, far worse, reinterpret it in a way that fits what actually happened so that it fits into their personal view. Anyhow, here's my list. There are a few modern sources, but the majority are from period pirates and sailors. (The non-pirate sailor's books give insight into life at sea during this time period.) http://www.piratesurgeon.com/pages/surgeon_pages/pirate_bibliography.html Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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