Captain Mauvebeard Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 This may seem a stupid question but could anyone tell me how things were usually attached to a belt to allow them to still be used i.e. money purses etc? "Why has all the rum gone?" - Capt Jack Sparrow International Talk Like A Pirate Day UK www.talkpiratedayuk.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 If you're asking in a period correct sense, my impression is that they didn't put a lot of stuff on their belt. In fact, my garb (and most PC garb that I've seen) has a waistcoat covering the belt, even if it's a short sailor's waist coat. So hanging stuff from it would be underneath clothing and awfully inconvenient to get at. (This may be a plus when dealing with thieves, of course. But it would make it that much harder for you to get to as well.) If you're not asking in a PC sense, I don't know because my belt is always under my waistcoat. :) The real answer to the PC question is scattered all over the place. However, some topics that may be of interest to you if you want to research it: What they carried? Hanging Tankard without offense? Sword Carriages Cartridge Boxes? Belts! (Not as useful as it sounds, other than for proving there were thin belts in use at the time.) Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mauvebeard Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 Many thanks Mission, that's great "Why has all the rum gone?" - Capt Jack Sparrow International Talk Like A Pirate Day UK www.talkpiratedayuk.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Brand Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 A lot of the little things that might be tied to a belt, were more likely carried in a market wallet, haversack or snapsack. In almost all paintings and engravings of the period, working men and sailors are shown carrying personal items about in one of these carrying 'bags', sometimes on the end of a walking stick. Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Where did they find the Gunnister Man's purse? The one you guys had at FTPI looked like something you would hang from a belt. Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartermaster James Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) Yes, this is a reconstruction, but, to my mind the purse strings do not appear substanial enough to use to tie to a belt, and are simple drawstrings for closure. http://www.rls.org.uk/database/record.php?usi=000-000-489-014-C&searchdb=scran&PHPSESSID=o9tvrsl4tkd24hhra9iug06o86&theme=6 http://www.shetland-museum.org.uk/downloads/data/GunnisterMan_Leaflet.pdf Addendum: herein lies the answer to the good surgeon's query: http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/catalogue/adsdata/arch-352-1/dissemination/pdf/vol_086/86_030_042.pdf The purse was found inside the breeches, as if in a pocket. Edited February 24, 2013 by Quartermaster James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Addendum: herein lies the answer to the good surgeon's query: http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/catalogue/adsdata/arch-352-1/dissemination/pdf/vol_086/86_030_042.pdf The purse was found inside the breeches, as if in a pocket. What an interesting document! Thank you for finding it and posting it. Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Ha ha ha! Gunnister man hated sewing button-holes too! "The high round neck is faced inside but has no collar. It buttons to below the waist with twenty buttons, slightly more than 1 in. apart. Below these are another four buttons, the corresponding "holes" being stitched at the ends, but uncut." (Audrey S. Henshall & Stuart Maxwell, "Clothing and Other Articles from a Late 17th-Century Grave at Gunnister, Shetland.", PROCEEDINGS OF THE SOCIETY, 1951-52, p. 32) Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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