Grymm Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 [Moderation note: This topic was split from waistcoats with sleeves or without ?] I wear one, but my costume is based on a lower class gentleman's clothing, not a sailor's and I don't know enough to respond beyond that. I trust my tailor implicitly, however. (Except when I insist he do something for me that wouldn't be correct like adding inside pockets to a coat. Then any error is entirely my own.) Pockets inside a coat!? You heathen Nah, just joshing you, actually, the main protaganist in Hogarth's Cruelty In Perfection has his pistol in an inside pocket. Lambourne! Lambourne! Stop that man pissin' on the hedge, it's imported.
Mission Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Ah, so inside pockets are there for criminals and surgeons. Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."
Grymm Posted April 17, 2012 Author Posted April 17, 2012 Doh, just noticed he's an inside pocket on each side, he's being pickpocketed or having evidence planted in his LH (as we look) one. Lambourne! Lambourne! Stop that man pissin' on the hedge, it's imported.
Mission Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 I actually asked Michael to put them at chest level where they are in modern coats, which he didn't seem to think would be accurate, although since they're hidden, he agreed to do that for me. Michael is cool like that. And I am a heathen like that. To add apparel crime upon apparel crime, I would actually like to sew the tops of my socks into the cuff of my knee pants (er, breeches) so that they will never fall down again. Except then I'd have to wear the same stinky socks if I wore those breeches two days in a row. Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."
Fox Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 That's what garters are for... Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
Grymm Posted April 18, 2012 Author Posted April 18, 2012 Found another inside pocket, again's a bit later but an existing piece in Porvoo Museum, Swashbuckler that's up your way any picture of nice things for us from there? From http://www.fashioningtheearlymodern.ac.uk/workshops/workshop-2/workshop-2-photos/ description is, 'A selection of clothing items from the Porvoo museum’s clothing and textile collection is shown below:' and near the bottom 1750's coat with inside pocket which judging by the curve on the CF seam is nipple height. Sorry they're so teeny but the big'uns are protected. Lambourne! Lambourne! Stop that man pissin' on the hedge, it's imported.
Swashbuckler 1700 Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Found another inside pocket, again's a bit later but an existing piece in Porvoo Museum, Swashbuckler that's up your way any picture of nice things for us from there? From http://www.fashionin...kshop-2-photos/ description is, 'A selection of clothing items from the Porvoo museum’s clothing and textile collection is shown below:' and near the bottom 1750's coat with inside pocket which judging by the curve on the CF seam is nipple height. Sorry they're so teeny but the big'uns are protected. If I make trip to Porvoo sometimes I will visit there ....nice place it seems..... What a nice waistcoat and it has sleeves hmmm (wondering one other tread....) Edited April 18, 2012 by Swashbuckler 1700 "I have not yet Begun To Fight!"John Paul Jones
Mission Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 That's what garters are for... No garters are for making you spend money on something that either cuts off the circulation to your legs or don't work properly. Actually, my big problem with garters is that to work with some of my breeches, they'd have to be worn above my knee. As if the damned things don't already look silly enough when you put them on below your knees... Well, IMO. But then I don't like the breeches much to begin with. Although I like 'em loads better when they go down to my upper calf, which I'm told is a later period look. Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."
Cascabel Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 That's what garters are for... No garters are for making you spend money on something that either cuts off the circulation to your legs or don't work properly. Actually, my big problem with garters is that to work with some of my breeches, they'd have to be worn above my knee. As if the damned things don't already look silly enough when you put them on below your knees... Well, IMO. But then I don't like the breeches much to begin with. Although I like 'em loads better when they go down to my upper calf, which I'm told is a later period look. No......... Garters are for slipping dollar bills into !!!! :lol:
peglegstrick Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Casabel..you've been to some of the same clubsI've been in....LOL
Grymm Posted April 18, 2012 Author Posted April 18, 2012 If I make trip to Porvoo sometimes I will visit there ....nice place it seems..... What a nice waistcoat and it has sleeves hmmm (wondering one other tread....) Pretty sure it's not a waistcoat, looking at the other pics of it on the site it has the collar, small turnback cuff, rear vents, skirts and back details of a mid to late 18thC coat. Lambourne! Lambourne! Stop that man pissin' on the hedge, it's imported.
Mission Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Found another inside pocket, again's a bit later but an existing piece in Porvoo Museum, Swashbuckler that's up your way any picture of nice things for us from there? From http://www.fashionin...kshop-2-photos/ description is, 'A selection of clothing items from the Porvoo museum’s clothing and textile collection is shown below:' and near the bottom 1750's coat with inside pocket which judging by the curve on the CF seam is nipple height. Sorry they're so teeny but the big'uns are protected. Looking at the larger photos, that is exactly the kind of pocket I had Michael put in for me. Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."
Capt. Sterling Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Oi Grymm, any idea when the pockets in the back skirts started making an appearance? "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/
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