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Blackjohn could totally be this guy. SB1700 keeps finding period drawings of pub members.

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here better one

http://jcb.lunaimagi...qvq=w4s:/where/[London];sort:Normalized_date%2CCreators%2CPublisher%2CTitle;lc:JCB~1~1,JCBBOOKS~1~1,JCBMAPS~1~1,JCBMAPS~2~2&mi=1322&trs=1327

This is surprisingly rarely seen here it is George lowther from 1736 edition of Genereal History.

Note the odd contrast that palm tree and fur cap make :P .... there is also nice brim hat well as tricorns...

http://jcb.lunaimagi.../what/Artifacts, industry, and human activities/Pirates/where/[Amsterdam];sort:Normalized_date%2CCreators%2CPublisher%2CTitle;lc:JCB~1~1,JCBBOOKS~1~1,JCBMAPS~1~1,JCBMAPS~2~2&mi=3&trs=22

There is pic from 1725 edition of General History

here is one more from same place

http://jcb.lunaimagi.../what/Artifacts, industry, and human activities/Pirates/where/[Amsterdam];sort:Normalized_date%2CCreators%2CPublisher%2CTitle;lc:JCB~1~1,JCBBOOKS~1~1,JCBMAPS~1~1,JCBMAPS~2~2&mi=6&trs=22

Here is interesting late 17th century Dutch picture

http://jcb.lunaimagi.../what/Artifacts, industry, and human activities/Pirates/where/[Amsterdam];sort:Normalized_date%2CCreators%2CPublisher%2CTitle;lc:JCB~1~1,JCBBOOKS~1~1,JCBMAPS~1~1,JCBMAPS~2~2&mi=0&trs=22

nice pic here

http://jcb.lunaimagi...qvq=w4s:/where/[London];sort:Normalized_date%2CCreators%2CPublisher%2CTitle;lc:JCB~1~1,JCBBOOKS~1~1,JCBMAPS~1~1,JCBMAPS~2~2&mi=1321&trs=1327

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Nice find! I've never seen any of those before. (I wish I'd had the one with Low shooting the guy in the face when I was doing my article on gunshot wounds.)

That last one is a great period drawing of navigational instruments - something I haven't often seen.

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John: "I don't know."

Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."

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Poor buccaneer

http://jcb.lunaimagi...2~2&mi=9&trs=13

This is from 1770s but it is interesting and still quite close to Gaop and it represent buccaneers

http://jcb.lunaimagi...2~2&mi=5&trs=13

This has same date but I wonder that captain cook means I think it should be rogers since Serkirk did not meet cook

http://jcb.lunaimagi...~2&mi=75&trs=83

Cartounce from 1730- 1740s

http://jcb.lunaimagi...~2&mi=29&trs=34

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Unfortunate example that illustrators did sometimes some errors. See in early 18th century illustrator has put Drake in tricorn..... oh well

http://jcb.lunaimagi...2&mi=63&trs=153

Here is interesting map/ picture of santo Domingo from 1671

note nice houses and hanged man

http://jcb.lunaimagi...&mi=104&trs=152

Barbabos in 1695 (there Stede Bonnet was born)

http://jcb.lunaimagi...2~2&mi=2&trs=32

later than gaop but note sailor

http://jcb.lunaimaging.com/luna/servlet/detail/JCBMAPS~2~2~504~100429:COUNT-DE-GRASSE-in-the-SUGAR-TRAP?qvq=q:sugar;lc:JCB~1~1,JCBBOOKS~1~1,JCBMAPS~1~1,JCBMAPS~2~2&mi=0&trs=229

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This is from 1770s but it is interesting and still quite close to Gaop and it represent buccaneers

http://jcb.lunaimagi...2~2&mi=5&trs=13

This has same date but I wonder that captain cook means I think it should be rogers since Serkirk did not meet cook

http://jcb.lunaimagi...~2&mi=75&trs=83

Those two images are from an interesting book called (believe it or not) An historical account of all the voyages round the world: performed by English navigators; including those lately undertaken by order of His present Majesty. The whole faithfully extracted from the journals of the voyagers. Drake, undertaken in 1577-80; Cavendish, 1586-88; Cowley, 1683-86; Dampier, 1689-96; Cooke, 1708-11; Rogers, 1708-11; Clipperton and Shelvocke, 1719-22; Anson, undertaken in 1740-44; Byron, 1764-66; Wallis, 1766-68; Carteret, 1766-69; and Cook, 1768-71. Together with that of Sydney Parkinson ... and the voyage of Mons. Bougainville ... To which is added, an appendix. Containing the Journal of a voyage to the North pole, by the Hon. Commodore Phipps, and Captain Lutwidge.

The original four volumes contain some reprints of the actual accounts, in addition to narrative commentary by the book's publisher and quite a few pictures. However, as SB1700 noted, there are clearly factual errors in the book like Cook apparently time-traveling to meet Alexander Selkirk. So caveat emptor when reading it. You can find pdfs all of these volumes (separately) on-line by searching for "An historical account of all the voyages round the world."

Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?"

John: "I don't know."

Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."

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This is from 1770s but it is interesting and still quite close to Gaop and it represent buccaneers

http://jcb.lunaimagi...2~2&mi=5&trs=13

This has same date but I wonder that captain cook means I think it should be rogers since Serkirk did not meet cook

http://jcb.lunaimagi...~2&mi=75&trs=83

Those two images are from an interesting book called (believe it or not) An historical account of all the voyages round the world: performed by English navigators; including those lately undertaken by order of His present Majesty. The whole faithfully extracted from the journals of the voyagers. Drake, undertaken in 1577-80; Cavendish, 1586-88; Cowley, 1683-86; Dampier, 1689-96; Cooke, 1708-11; Rogers, 1708-11; Clipperton and Shelvocke, 1719-22; Anson, undertaken in 1740-44; Byron, 1764-66; Wallis, 1766-68; Carteret, 1766-69; and Cook, 1768-71. Together with that of Sydney Parkinson ... and the voyage of Mons. Bougainville ... To which is added, an appendix. Containing the Journal of a voyage to the North pole, by the Hon. Commodore Phipps, and Captain Lutwidge.

The original four volumes contain some reprints of the actual accounts, in addition to narrative commentary by the book's publisher and quite a few pictures. However, as SB1700 noted, there are clearly factual errors in the book like Cook apparently time-traveling to meet Alexander Selkirk. So caveat emptor when reading it. You can find pdfs all of these volumes (separately) on-line by searching for "An historical account of all the voyages round the world."

Great. it is sad that often period books have fiction with the facts.....

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I doubt there is any such thing as a history book that is completely correct. Nor will there ever be. (Except Foxe's books, of course. :P )

Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?"

John: "I don't know."

Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."

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I doubt there is any such thing as a history book that is completely correct. Nor will there ever be. (Except Foxe's books, of course. :P )

certainly :P

Indeed I have found errors in every book that I have read wholly....( don't mean Foxe's Every book but every book that I have read got it?)

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The trouble is that we (and that includes you) have our own faults and biases that make it impossible for us to be the ultimate judges of truth. So in many ways whether a book is completely correct or not is really irrelevant in the scheme of things. It's best to just know that no author is perfect and read anyhow. (Otherwise you'll drive yourself mad.)

Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?"

John: "I don't know."

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The trouble is that we (and that includes you) have our own faults and biases that make it impossible for us to be the ultimate judges of truth. So in many ways whether a book is completely correct or not is really irrelevant in the scheme of things. It's best to just know that no author is perfect and read anyhow. (Otherwise you'll drive yourself mad.)

That I have learned the hard way and I almost drived myself mad with it. You could not be more right in this matter. ;)

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This is from 1770s but it is interesting and still quite close to Gaop and it represent buccaneers

http://jcb.lunaimagi...2~2&mi=5&trs=13

This has same date but I wonder that captain cook means I think it should be rogers since Serkirk did not meet cook

http://jcb.lunaimagi...~2&mi=75&trs=83

Those two images are from an interesting book called (believe it or not) An historical account of all the voyages round the world: performed by English navigators; including those lately undertaken by order of His present Majesty. The whole faithfully extracted from the journals of the voyagers. Drake, undertaken in 1577-80; Cavendish, 1586-88; Cowley, 1683-86; Dampier, 1689-96; Cooke, 1708-11; Rogers, 1708-11; Clipperton and Shelvocke, 1719-22; Anson, undertaken in 1740-44; Byron, 1764-66; Wallis, 1766-68; Carteret, 1766-69; and Cook, 1768-71. Together with that of Sydney Parkinson ... and the voyage of Mons. Bougainville ... To which is added, an appendix. Containing the Journal of a voyage to the North pole, by the Hon. Commodore Phipps, and Captain Lutwidge.

The original four volumes contain some reprints of the actual accounts, in addition to narrative commentary by the book's publisher and quite a few pictures. However, as SB1700 noted, there are clearly factual errors in the book like Cook apparently time-traveling to meet Alexander Selkirk. So caveat emptor when reading it. You can find pdfs all of these volumes (separately) on-line by searching for "An historical account of all the voyages round the world."

I highly doubt that the author was trying to infer that Captain James Cook of the Endeavour time traveled to meet Alexander Selkirk, odds are t'is a very simple spelling/typo mistake... as ye both are forgetting about Edward Cooke who was on the Dutchess and wrote his own account of the Rogers' expedition to the south seas.


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Edward Cooke not only wrote one version of the voyage BUT two because in the first volume, seems as if he didn't think reporting on Selkirk would be as interesting as it was...seems Rogers version showed that not to be the case...


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This is from 1770s but it is interesting and still quite close to Gaop and it represent buccaneers

http://jcb.lunaimagi...2~2&mi=5&trs=13

This has same date but I wonder that captain cook means I think it should be rogers since Serkirk did not meet cook

http://jcb.lunaimagi...~2&mi=75&trs=83

Those two images are from an interesting book called (believe it or not) An historical account of all the voyages round the world: performed by English navigators; including those lately undertaken by order of His present Majesty. The whole faithfully extracted from the journals of the voyagers. Drake, undertaken in 1577-80; Cavendish, 1586-88; Cowley, 1683-86; Dampier, 1689-96; Cooke, 1708-11; Rogers, 1708-11; Clipperton and Shelvocke, 1719-22; Anson, undertaken in 1740-44; Byron, 1764-66; Wallis, 1766-68; Carteret, 1766-69; and Cook, 1768-71. Together with that of Sydney Parkinson ... and the voyage of Mons. Bougainville ... To which is added, an appendix. Containing the Journal of a voyage to the North pole, by the Hon. Commodore Phipps, and Captain Lutwidge.

The original four volumes contain some reprints of the actual accounts, in addition to narrative commentary by the book's publisher and quite a few pictures. However, as SB1700 noted, there are clearly factual errors in the book like Cook apparently time-traveling to meet Alexander Selkirk. So caveat emptor when reading it. You can find pdfs all of these volumes (separately) on-line by searching for "An historical account of all the voyages round the world."

I highly doubt that the author was trying to infer that Captain James Cook of the Endeavour time traveled to meet Alexander Selkirk, odds are t'is a very simple spelling/typo mistake... as ye both are forgetting about Edward Cooke who was on the Dutchess and wrote his own account of the Rogers' expedition to the south seas.

But he was not captain, or was he?

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