Montero caps

[Swashbuckler 1700]

Hi I was wondering very simple question: were monteroes in common use in Gaop? My research suppor idea that they were more popular in buccaneer's tIme....But were there monteroes in 1699 slop shop since I have read someting like that? I also believe that in this Vigo painting in early 1700s sailor/soldier wears montero..

In a middle picture man with red cap behind rocks note

painting is here

bigger one here http://ageofsail.dev...oad/vigoooo.jpg

Edited February 11, 2012 by Swashbuckler 1700

[Jas. Hook]

Swashbuckler -

First that I've heard of them but see the site I found with some info.

Jas. Hook

http://thegoodwyfe.blogspot.com/2011/01/montero-cap.html

[michaelsbagley]

I can't find the image right now, but I wil post it later when I do finally come across it. But there are images of some French voyageurs from the 1690s(?) with them wearing what is called a Tapaboard (sp?) hat (which to me looks exactly like a Montero). With luck, searching under the French name may find you some more additional references.

Scratch all that... I remembered an article that was previously published in a magazine, but also posted on the web page of the author. The article has plenty of references to Tapabord hats, from the 1650s through the 1740s. Below is the link to the article, lots of really good well researched historical information there. The article ends with a sketchie set of instructions on how to make one.

http://frenchinwisconsin.yolasite.com/resources/v13n6_walters_fix.pdf

Hope this helps. Ejoy!

[Swashbuckler 1700]

Well reading more stuff i came accros this in slop shop 1699 "2 cloth mount eare capps" these were (I believe) monteroes....

[Brit.Privateer]

I can't find the image right now, but I wil post it later when I do finally come across it. But there are images of some French voyageurs from the 1690s(?) with them wearing what is called a Tapaboard (sp?) hat (which to me looks exactly like a Montero). With luck, searching under the French name may find you some more additional references.

I do believe that is a reference to the Duplessis watercolors from a French expedition to the Pacific Ocean from 1698-1701. Fox has an image of it on his site: http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL762/3253847/6655055/86051167.jpg

Also, there is a hat on the illustration of the Spanish sailor equipment from 1725 that kind of has this look as well, but is only referred to as a bonete: http://www.piratebrethren.com/spanishsailornotes.gif

Also, in the Will of John Hutchinson from 1684, it mentions a mounteer cap, which is a variant name on the montero cap according the Oxford English Dictionary. Fo rthe will, see pg 58 of Peter Earle's Sailors: English Merchant Seamen 1650-1775.

So, maybe the 1698 Joseph Haycock slop shop inventory is referring to the mounteer cap. But, there are only 2 of them in that shop with so many others. There is no doubt that these caps were worn in the Atlantic World by at least some sailors, but to say it was common is hard to say.

[Swashbuckler 1700]

I can't find the image right now, but I wil post it later when I do finally come across it. But there are images of some French voyageurs from the 1690s(?) with them wearing what is called a Tapaboard (sp?) hat (which to me looks exactly like a Montero). With luck, searching under the French name may find you some more additional references.

I do believe that is a reference to the Duplessis watercolors from a French expedition to the Pacific Ocean from 1698-1701. Fox has an image of it on his site: http://pic100.pictur...55/86051167.jpg

Also, there is a hat on the illustration of the Spanish sailor equipment from 1725 that kind of has this look as well, but is only referred to as a bonete: http://www.piratebre...sailornotes.gif

Also, in the Will of John Hutchinson from 1684, it mentions a mounteer cap, which is a variant name on the montero cap according the Oxford English Dictionary. Fo rthe will, see pg 58 of Peter Earle's Sailors: English Merchant Seamen 1650-1775.

So, maybe the 1698 Joseph Haycock slop shop inventory is referring to the mounteer cap. But, there are only 2 of them in that shop with so many others. There is no doubt that these caps were worn in the Atlantic World by at least some sailors, but to say it was common is hard to say.

That there was only 2 caps can mean that they were bought out...still I don't believe that they were very popular in early 1700s...

Oh and one article by Foxe says:

"Montero caps would also have been ideal for inclement weather. They are mentioned in the inventory of Haycock’s shop, but seem to have been steadily declining in popularity so would not have been particularly common during the Golden Age of Piracy."

Edited February 13, 2012 by Swashbuckler 1700