Capt. Trueblood Posted September 6, 2011 Posted September 6, 2011 Does anyone know of documentation of Voyageur Caps being worn by British sailors during the GAoP? Capt. Jacobus Trueblood The Sloop Adventure "The tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil."
Jas. Hook Posted September 6, 2011 Posted September 6, 2011 http://wickedwoollens.blogspot.com/2009/09/dutch-sailors-cap.html Trueblood - I couldn't get to the museum site link listed by this knitter. It would appear to be a generic type of hand knit woolen cap called by various names depending on its national origin or port-of-call where the cap may have been obtained. Jas. Hook . "Born on an island, live on an island... the sea has always been in my blood." Jas. Hook "You can't direct the wind . . . but . . . you can adjust the sails." "Don't eat the chickens with writing on their beaks." Governor Sawney
michaelsbagley Posted September 6, 2011 Posted September 6, 2011 I wish I could base this on documentation and not just gut feeling... But the voyageur hats were still a pretty new thing to the French at that time, so I would be pretty skeptical of any English adopting it that early. Probably later in the 18th century, but I would doubt it for GAoP.
Fox Posted September 6, 2011 Posted September 6, 2011 I've never seen any illustration of, or unambiguous textual reference to, an English seaman of the GAoP in a voyageur cap. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
Grymm Posted September 6, 2011 Posted September 6, 2011 Knitted woolly cap yes, specifically one of they Voyaguer/Swallows and Amazons hats with the tassel no. Lambourne! Lambourne! Stop that man pissin' on the hedge, it's imported.
Guest Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 Dang.... now I have to find the picture again.... (well I had to look for it again before PiP anyway...because I'm going to make one.) OK.... not exactly a voyageur cap, but a slightly longer cap than a Manmouth, that folds down in the back (and NO tassle...)
michaelsbagley Posted September 8, 2011 Posted September 8, 2011 I think the tassles come in at the end of the 18th century... I know the French were wearing the long voyageur knit caps from at least the 1680s, if not earlier. I've just never seen evidence of the anglais (English) adopting them until much later in the 18th century
Capt. Trueblood Posted September 9, 2011 Author Posted September 9, 2011 Thanks All, I personally am not a big fan of tassels. However, I was getting ready to start making a tassel-free Voyageur cap for this winter as they are very versatile and can be worn several different ways. I just didn't know if they would be PC for a pirate of non-French persuasion Capt. Jacobus Trueblood The Sloop Adventure "The tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil."
Swashbuckler 1700 Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) I wonder what these hats are. To me they look like much like Voyageurs without tassels. from late 17th century Edited May 1, 2012 by Swashbuckler 1700 "I have not yet Begun To Fight!"John Paul Jones
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