jendobyns Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 This should be fun, Pirates, a mermaid, and Dr. Who in the next episode this Saturday, May 7th, 2011 Looks like the Black Spot even shows up as part of the plot. Jen
MajorChaos Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 DVR is locked and loaded to record the show Chaos, panic, pandemonium - my work here is done. Master-At-Arms, Crew Of The Vigilant Baltimore Maryland Based 17th & 18th Century Naval Living History Crew Of The Vigilant
Mission Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 I heard rather unfavourable things about the new actor. (It could just be because people usually react poorly to change.) It sort of makes sense that they would cross over into the era of the pirates, though. He is a time traveler... We probably have Disney to thank for this. If they hadn't reinvigorated the genre, everyone would probably still think piracy = box office death. (Even so, you don't see a lot of copycat movies for some reason. Most of the media spillover seems to be mainly in television.) Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."
Brit.Privateer Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 (edited) Just saw the episode here in America, and it was interesting. I won't be spoiling any significant plot points here. All I want to say is that I am surprised that some writer must have cracked a book or website about pirates and actually looked up something. Henry Every was a pirate in the late 17th century that had taken treasure from Great Mogul's ship in the pilgrim fleet. I've seen a lot of pirate films and shows where historical pirate figures are used, but then the resulting story drastically departs from history (even Charles Johnson's kind of history) to the point that you wonder if you're talking about the same guy (example, the Robert Newton movie, "Blackbeard the Pirate" in which Blackbeard is a 17th century pirate who associates with Henry Morgan...what?). But, considering Dr. Who is a sci fi show, I'm rather pleased with this show as a part of that series (I'm a regular viewer of the show). As for the use of pirates, its pretty typical. Costume and props used are semi-typical of media today, meaning that the clothing looks like stuff they have been using in film for a long time, but it has been dulled in color and made dirty. I'll wait until later to critique the episode more, so I don't spoil it for other people. Edited May 8, 2011 by Brit.Privateer
MajorChaos Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Spoilers It was a good episode. Neat the tie in with an alien ship and it's doctor Chaos, panic, pandemonium - my work here is done. Master-At-Arms, Crew Of The Vigilant Baltimore Maryland Based 17th & 18th Century Naval Living History Crew Of The Vigilant
Silkie McDonough Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Walk the plank? I liked it, after all it isn't historical fiction it is science fiction.
Bos'n Cross Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 it wasnt my favorite episode...and that had not to do with the pyrate part...i felt that the explanation for the siren just wasn't quite up to snuff, nor the ending.........but the next episode looks to be very promising.......... -Israel Cross- - Boatswain of the Archangel - . Colonial Seaport Foundation Crew of the Archangel
Capt. Sterling Posted May 10, 2011 Posted May 10, 2011 My word Israel, t'is Dr. Who, not the history channel.... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/
Bos'n Cross Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 it wasnt the pyarate stuff! i just didnt like the episodes plot, it really seemed crappy in comparison to the season opening episodes............and iv grown not to expect tooooooo much from the history channel....... -Israel Cross- - Boatswain of the Archangel - . Colonial Seaport Foundation Crew of the Archangel
Tartan Jack Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 So, . . . THAT is what happened to Henry Avery/Every! I guess Foxe needs to rework the end of his book on the guy. (Hehehehehehehe) And more to topic, Doctor Who has a weird hit-and-miss relation to actual history. Some is very, very good, while some is a sci-fi spin (understand in the nature of the show), while other is just inexplicably odd and strangely and needlessly bizarre (at least to someone who knows the actual history). Often all three happen in the same episode. The first 2 I have zero issue with, as that is the nature of the show. The last one perplexes and irks me. Always will. I DO like the openendedness of this episode's end. You don't know if they go and continue to do piracy or something else. It is left up to the mind of the audience. -John "Tartan Jack" Wages, of South Carolina
MarkG Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 it wasnt the pyarate stuff! i just didnt like the episodes plot, it really seemed crappy in comparison to the season opening episodes............and iv grown not to expect tooooooo much from the history channel....... The episode was a classic Dr. Who plot - something bad is happening, the Doctor appears, more bad things happen, the doctor figures out how to minimize the deaths but more people die anyway, the Doctor figures out what is going on and stops it. The main difference with this one is that everyone survived. Usually there is a high body count. They have been using variations of this plot since the 1960s.
Mission Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 This is true. However, for me at least, the key to a Dr. Who episode isn't so much what happens, so much as how witty and absurd the Doctor is in responding to it. Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."
Bos'n Cross Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 YES...and to me, this one wasnt as clever as not only the first two, but even the last season.......i also HATE the explaination of what it really is...i think i was fine with the episode untill they figured it out....... -Israel Cross- - Boatswain of the Archangel - . Colonial Seaport Foundation Crew of the Archangel
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