Beowoulf Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 What is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peglegstrick Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Looks Spanish....ring on the lock......but really don't know. 'Tis a thing of beauty tho........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Noland Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Ottoman Turks were fond of that kind of decoration as well, and the miquelet locks were found all around the Mediteranean, Middle-East, and north African coast too. Any clue as to the origin of the image? R. Noland He who is content, has everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowoulf Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Where I got the image (scroll down): http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=310454 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoD Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 it lists it as a Spanish Miqulet Flintlock Pistol on this page. I dont think its the actual one Barbossa used though http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean:_The_Curse_of_the_Black_Pearl ...and then I discovered the wine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korisios Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Here it is also... My link and here My link I also red somewhere that it''s used in a other movie then the Pirates of the Caribien... Lets see if i can find it again... Edited January 17, 2011 by Korisios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowoulf Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Damn! I must own one! (or two!) ... now how to do that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Italy and Spain were the 2 main sources of miquelet locks during the GAoP roughly with much od the med (northern africa) developing similar miquelet locks at a later date. The Italian pieces typically employed a main spring that pushed down onthe foreward piece of the cock. The Spanish locks typically pushed up on the back of the cock. I am currently working on reproducing an Italian piece that is comparable. Swab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korisios Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Italy and Spain were the 2 main sources of miquelet locks during the GAoP roughly with much od the med (northern africa) developing similar miquelet locks at a later date. The Italian pieces typically employed a main spring that pushed down onthe foreward piece of the cock. The Spanish locks typically pushed up on the back of the cock. I am currently working on reproducing an Italian piece that is comparable. Swab Pictures!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascabel Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 That particular one in the picture is one of the non-firing die cast replicas by Denix. I would love to see a functional reproduction available. I always thought the miquelet locks were exotic looking. I plan to keep an eye open for the results of Vintagesailor's efforts. He produces some interesting pieces..... >>>>> Cascabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoD Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 heres the actual miquelet lock pistol that Barbossa used: http://www.tortugatrading.com/engine/inspect.asp?Item=678&Filter=Movie+Memorabilia&Name=(%231.+PRIMARY)+An+Antique+Spanish+Miqulet+Flintlock+Pistol%2C+Used+as+Prop+in+PIRATES+II+%26+III+by+BARBOSSA%2C+Singapore+Scene ...and then I discovered the wine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Pyrate Greyhound Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Here it is also... My link and here My link I also red somewhere that it''s used in a other movie then the Pirates of the Caribien... Lets see if i can find it again... Yes it was, Barbossa's pistol was the same gun used by Doug Brown in Cutthroat Island. Let every man Know freedom, Kings be damned, And let the Devil sort out the mess afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Pyrate Greyhound Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) heres the actual miquelet lock pistol that Barbossa used: http://www.tortugatr...Singapore+Scene Actually, Barbossa's pistol was a little different, the buttcap was shaped like a skull for opn thing, and It had a lot of elegant silver fixtures on black wood Edited January 17, 2011 by Commodore Greyhound Let every man Know freedom, Kings be damned, And let the Devil sort out the mess afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowoulf Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 http://www.gundersonmilitaria.com/pistolmiquletsilverclad.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 That particular one in the picture is one of the non-firing die cast replicas by Denix. I would love to see a functional reproduction available. I always thought the miquelet locks were exotic looking. I plan to keep an eye open for the results of Vintagesailor's efforts. He produces some interesting pieces..... >>>>> Cascabel Thats putting it nicely, the one Im going to reproduce in time is a pistol that is most likely a pistol built in Brescia and built for export. I have most of the pieces close to being ready to start taking molds off of which will be the first step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain McCool Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The Commodore is correct. Neither of these pistols were used by Barbossa, and I'm pretty sure neither were even used in the PotC films. Leastways, I never saw them. Barbossa's, as was very correctly mentioned above, was the same pistol used for Dawg Brown in Cutthroat Island. Holywood loves to recycle props. However, these ARE beautiful pistols! The first is a little more ornate than I'd personally fancy (just because it seems to say "fake" to me), but there are historical examples of pistols with similarly ornate carvings and inlays. As far as replicas go, it's not bad. I rather like the Denix stuff being put out, for the most part. The second one, now that's bloody gorgeous! The miquet lock is a really unique look. Does anyone know how functional it was, vs. a "typical" European flintlock design? heres the actual miquelet lock pistol that Barbossa used: http://www.tortugatr...Singapore+Scene Actually, Barbossa's pistol was a little different, the buttcap was shaped like a skull for opn thing, and It had a lot of elegant silver fixtures on black wood Captain Jack McCool, landlocked pirate extraordinaire, Captain of the dreaded prairie schooner Ill Repute, etc. etc. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ "That’s what a ship is, you know. It’s not just a keel, and a hull, and a deck, and sails. That’s what a ship needs. But what a ship is… what the Black Pearl really is… is freedom." -Captain Jack Sparrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascabel Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 A well made Miquelet lock is every bit as reliable as a "standard" flintlock. The advantage to them is that with most of the works on the outside, there is a lot less wood removed from the stock in order to mount them, making for a stronger stock. If a stock gets broken, it usually breaks through the lock area, as a lot of strength is lost when inletting for tumbler, bridle, and especially the mainspring. Very nearly half of the wood is cut away in the lock area to clear these parts on a standard flintlock. The disadvantages to a Miquelet is the moving parts being on the outside, they are exposed to impact damage and being jammed by dirt and debris. >>>>> Cascabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoD Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 heres the actual miquelet lock pistol that Barbossa used: http://www.tortugatr...Singapore+Scene Actually, Barbossa's pistol was a little different, the buttcap was shaped like a skull for opn thing, and It had a lot of elegant silver fixtures on black wood Its the one he gives up in singapore at the beginning of the 3rd film. It can be seen in this you tube clip: ...and then I discovered the wine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain McCool Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Ah! It would appear you're dead right! I stand corrected sir! heres the actual miquelet lock pistol that Barbossa used: http://www.tortugatr...Singapore+Scene Actually, Barbossa's pistol was a little different, the buttcap was shaped like a skull for opn thing, and It had a lot of elegant silver fixtures on black wood Its the one he gives up in singapore at the beginning of the 3rd film. It can be seen in this you tube clip: Captain Jack McCool, landlocked pirate extraordinaire, Captain of the dreaded prairie schooner Ill Repute, etc. etc. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ "That’s what a ship is, you know. It’s not just a keel, and a hull, and a deck, and sails. That’s what a ship needs. But what a ship is… what the Black Pearl really is… is freedom." -Captain Jack Sparrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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