Iron Bess Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 It could happen I guess! http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/01/pictures/110112-pirate-blackbeards-sword-shipwreck-queen-annes-revenge-science-treasure/?now=2011-01-12-00:01#/queen-annes-revenge-blackbeard-ship-sword-found_31158_600x450.jpg Well, you may not realize it but your looking at the remains of what was once a very handsome woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Lasseter Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 As cool as it is... I highly doubt it was his sword... unless he had it, broke it, and discarded it in the bowels of the ship... On another note, I toured the QAR conservation lab April of '09 and saw that quillon up close and personal, quite a thing of beauty... So it appears it is from a French hunting hangar... I thought as much... Would love to hear other opinions on this... Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 It sure would make a nice story to tie to the release of the 3rd sequel to a certain movie, though... I like this story because it led me to this story. That sure would make a nice story to tie to the release of the 3rd sequel to a certain movie, too. Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Brand Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We have people on the Pub that could replicate that hilt to the letter. Get to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainB Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I agree with William on this. If the reports of Blackbeard's death are to be believed, Blackbeard died upon Lt. Maynard's ship, after fighting Maynard sword to sword. I would think that Blackbeard's sword would have been claimed as a prize by one of the surviving sailors under Maynard's command, if not given as a gift to Maynard himself. "If I believed in fate, I wouldn't be playing with loaded dice..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Midnight Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I agree with William on this. If the reports of Blackbeard's death are to be believed, Blackbeard died upon Lt. Maynard's ship, after fighting Maynard sword to sword. I would think that Blackbeard's sword would have been claimed as a prize by one of the surviving sailors under Maynard's command, if not given as a gift to Maynard himself. I would rather have to agree with this assumption. "Now then, me bullies! Would you rather do the gallows dance, and hang in chains 'til the crows pluck your eyes from your rotten skulls? Or would you feel the roll of a stout ship beneath your feet again?" ---Captain William Kidd--- (1945) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendy Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Blackbeard's sword makes a good story - but I agree with you that it is quite unlikely. Did anyone see the pirate exhibit in Raleigh where they displayed the silver punch bowl supposedly made from Teach's skull? Not sure I was convinced about that either - but another great yarn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captscurvy_nc Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 I worked as Blackbeard during that exhibit and spent a lot of time telling people the story associated with the "skull". A great story but I strongly doubt that it is the legendary punch bowl skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Maddox Roberts Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Of course, he might have fought Maynard with his "working" sword, while this was his "go to meetin'" sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Pyrate Greyhound Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Of course, he might have fought Maynard with his "working" sword, while this was his "go to meetin'" sword. I agree, Pirate captains often eminated gentlemen of the period, and Blackbeard, when not wearing smoking cannon fuses in his beard, was reputed to have dressed in bright red gentleman's attire. This appears to be a gentleman's blade, and I wouldn't be surprised if he wore this blade at his side to show off his wealth when he was out on the town. Let every man Know freedom, Kings be damned, And let the Devil sort out the mess afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoD Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 He wouldnt have fought Maynard with it though anyway as this was a hilt found aboard the Queen Annes Revenge which had sunk (sank??) by the time he fought him. ...and then I discovered the wine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Smythe Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I agree with William on this. If the reports of Blackbeard's death are to be believed, Blackbeard died upon Lt. Maynard's ship, after fighting Maynard sword to sword. I would think that Blackbeard's sword would have been claimed as a prize by one of the surviving sailors under Maynard's command, if not given as a gift to Maynard himself. I would rather have to agree with this assumption. I agree as well. I read too much on Teach to not question this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Brand Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 We have people on the Pub that could replicate that hilt to the letter. Get to it. Once more with feeling. Somebody please replicate that hilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoD Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I would say that it is off a hunting hanger. From the decoration I would say most likely French (the pommel shows fleur-de-lise emblems too). It is also very similar in design to this late 18th century American Sword : http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?ItemId=45108 What i'd be intereted to know was if it had a shell guard attached below the hilt thats fallen off when the blade corroded. ...and then I discovered the wine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Pyrate Greyhound Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I agree with William on this. If the reports of Blackbeard's death are to be believed, Blackbeard died upon Lt. Maynard's ship, after fighting Maynard sword to sword. I would think that Blackbeard's sword would have been claimed as a prize by one of the surviving sailors under Maynard's command, if not given as a gift to Maynard himself. Well this is a good point, but if this was Blackbeard's 'go to meetin' sword as John Maddox Roberts says, and if history is to be believed and he was cheating his crew out of their treasure by running the Queen Anne aground, I don't think Blackbeard would have bothered to grab a fancy dress sword before abandoning ship. He would've taken his working cutlass, and probably had all his pistols strapped to him, just in case his plan went awry. And as far as personal possessions go, he probably would've only bothered to take the nesecities, like navigational instruments, seacharts and his logbook. Let every man Know freedom, Kings be damned, And let the Devil sort out the mess afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoD Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Speaking of his log book I saw an article once that quoted from his log book. Does this mean it still survives somewhere? And if so does anyone have a link to it or a copy that is for sale? ...and then I discovered the wine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Well this is a good point, but if this was Blackbeard's 'go to meetin' sword as John Maddox Roberts says, and if history is to be believed and he was cheating his crew out of their treasure by running the Queen Anne aground, I don't think Blackbeard would have bothered to grab a fancy dress sword before abandoning ship. He would've taken his working cutlass, and probably had all his pistols strapped to him, just in case his plan went awry. And as far as personal possessions go, he probably would've only bothered to take the nesecities, like navigational instruments, seacharts and his logbook. I'd have thought that if he ran the QAR aground deliberately then he'd have taken anything and everything he wanted, all nicely bundled up and ready to go. Even if it wasn't premeditated he'd have had enough time to grab his sword if he wanted to before disembarking. At the very least, he'd have had to have waited long enough for the Revenge to realise what had happened and come up alongside. Speaking of his log book I saw an article once that quoted from his log book. Does this mean it still survives somewhere? And if so does anyone have a link to it or a copy that is for sale? Such a day, rum all out... Unfortunately, Blackbeard's logbook no longer exists (or if it does, it's in somebody's attic somewhere gathering cobwebs). There's a supposed entry from the log quoted in Johnson's General History, but its provenance is far from certain, and that's all there is. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captscurvy_nc Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I was told by someone when I was working as Blackbeard at Teachs Hole back in 2000 that the logbook was destroyed in a fire in London in the 40's. Up until that time it was said to be part of a private collection on loan to a museum in London. The gentleman was from Bristol and had no resources other than local stories he hears from his father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 It's quite possible that it did survive the battle, other papers of Blackbeard's did. They're not in the admiralty papers, so if they survived they must have been in private hands. I've never heard of them surviving 'til the 40s, and if they had then one would expect a pre-40s author to have mentioned them (Phillip Gosse springs to mind), but the only bit ever quoted is the 'such a day, rum all out, 1012 days since I broke my razor' from Johnson. On the other hand, there were quite a few fires in London in the early forties, what with the whole Luftwaffe thing... Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoD Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I read that Blackbeards papers were taken by Maynard and handed in with the prisoners. There was a fire in the virginia records office aparently some time after this that may account for them going missing if indeed they didnt make it back to old blighty. ...and then I discovered the wine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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