Ivan Henry aka Moose Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 So I have a couple that - well, I am guessing I will leave home for PIP. But since I haven't clue on the history of bottle stoppers, are the hinged ones like on a Grolsch Beer Bottle too late for GAOP?
Ivan Henry aka Moose Posted November 18, 2009 Author Posted November 18, 2009 Answered me own query! "Others, like the Lightning closure, was invented in the 1870s and is still in use today. " Who would think there are sites on the internets devoted to bottle closure history!? http://www.sha.org/bottle/closures.htm So I leave them at home for PIP... :-( I was hoping to stock several with beer and wine.
Quartermaster James Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 So I have a couple that - well, I am guessing I will leave home for PIP. But since I haven't clue on the history of bottle stoppers, are the hinged ones like on a Grolsch Beer Bottle too late for GAOP? I gotta say I like the questions you're asking and the research and discussion they provoke! The bail and gasket is an older form of canning jar, but not that old. Late nineteenth century would be my best guess at an earliest date for bottles like those, but that is derived from canning/fruit jar history. Take a look HEREto see examples of what was around.
Quartermaster James Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 Who would think there are sites on the internets devoted to bottle closure history!? http://www.sha.org/bottle/closures.htm Wow! Great site! Thanks!
Ivan Henry aka Moose Posted November 18, 2009 Author Posted November 18, 2009 No problem and thanks for the compliment. I am seriously trying to examine everything I have and know the history, regardless of it's accuracy or not.
Mission Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 You know, I had actually wondered about this very thing the last time I saw one of those bottles. Interesting. Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."
Ivan Henry aka Moose Posted November 18, 2009 Author Posted November 18, 2009 Just glad to be curious... Hey Quartermaster - nice link! I want one of these wine decanters - like NOW!
Ivan Henry aka Moose Posted November 18, 2009 Author Posted November 18, 2009 Check this site out! http://www.jamestownglasshouse.com/Repro1.html
blackjohn Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 I was just there back in August, when I took the family to Williamsburg and Jamestown. That day was oppressively hot and humid, and here where these guys working with molten glass around this huge furnace. Ye gods it was hot. I didn't buy anything, since I was saving all my money for Dark Ages stuff, but it was fun to window shop. They sell some really nice glass there. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
Quartermaster James Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 I can vouch for their onion bottle. Would love to "collect the whole set"
willie wobble Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 Mooseworth would this work for you ,Jamestown handblown wine bottle handwraped with a handle and wrapped cork i've also got the onion bottles in two sizes
Ivan Henry aka Moose Posted November 20, 2009 Author Posted November 20, 2009 NICE! I ordered the decanter but it will not be modified in time for PIP - even if I get it in time!
Capt. Sterling Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 I was just there back in August, when I took the family to Williamsburg and Jamestown. That day was oppressively hot and humid, and here where these guys working with molten glass around this huge furnace. Ye gods it was hot. I didn't buy anything, since I was saving all my money for Dark Ages stuff, but it was fun to window shop. They sell some really nice glass there. OH.. did they get a new bottle blower? unfortunately one of them passed away a while back and the rumor was that they weren't able to replace him.... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/
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