j8ksdad Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I saw in an old post somewhere about how to make cloth buttons using a penny or such. I have tried the search featuer and I keep getting an error page. Anyone have a link or can give me the steps to make them? Thanks! Scott I'll eat when I'm hungry. I'll drink when I'm dry. If the hard times don't kill me I'll lay down and die. Rye whiskey! Rye whiskey! Rye whiskey I cry. If you don't give me rye whiskey, I surely will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsbagley Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I saw in an old post somewhere about how to make cloth buttons using a penny or such. I have tried the search featuer and I keep getting an error page. Anyone have a link or can give me the steps to make them?Thanks! Scott linkity link link I leanred from the diagrams and instuctions about two thirds of the way down the web page on the above link. I also use wooden bisquits bought from the local hobby store rather than pennies as it keeps the buttons lighter so they pull on the fabric less.... But I think Patrick said that he has had good success with using pennies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j8ksdad Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 Thanks Mr. B! I'll eat when I'm hungry. I'll drink when I'm dry. If the hard times don't kill me I'll lay down and die. Rye whiskey! Rye whiskey! Rye whiskey I cry. If you don't give me rye whiskey, I surely will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner Gordon Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 most any good fabric store will have the domed metal kits for making cloth covered buttons if you need a lot or uniformity. the further away from Scotland ye roam, the more Scottish ye become Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBarbossa Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Oh, now THIS is interesting. I've not seen this type of covered button. Awesome. Always wondered about those roundish buttons. Thank ye. The covered buttons I'm familiar with I used the reproduction pewter or wood maybe even horn buttons to create said type of buttons. Very cool. ~Lady B Tempt Fate! an' toss 't all t' Hell!" "I'm completely innocent of whatever crime I've committed." The one, the only,... the infamous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) For those interested in keeping their buttons more pc, William Booth Draper has some wonderful button molds http://wmboothdraper.com/ in the menu bar on the left hand side, click on buttons... Edited May 22, 2009 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner Gordon Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 For those interested in keeping their buttons more pc, William Booth Draper has some wonderful button moldshttp://wmboothdraper.com/ in the menu bar on the left hand side, click on buttons... Thank you Capt Sterling, This is the most helpful type of info, education and source. The websight you gave was excellent . the further away from Scotland ye roam, the more Scottish ye become Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBrower Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) Does anyone know how to make the thread buttons they speak of on the Wm. Booth Draper site? I would buy the book they suggest if I had the money... :-/ Edited May 22, 2009 by LadyBrower Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsbagley Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Does anyone know how to make the thread buttons they speak of on the Wm. Booth Draper site? I would buy the book they suggest if I had the money... :-/ On the same link I posted above for cloth covered buttons is a demo on making passementerie buttons, which while not the "Death's Head" or "Dorset" buttons that the flat discs or rings are used for are another form of thread buttons... a Style that was very common throughout the 17th century. Here is a link on making Death's Head buttons that was posted on another forum by Crazy Chole Black (who also posts here from time to time). And another link to a different demo on making the same style of buttons (some times multiple perspectives help). I have seen a link(s) posted here about making dorset buttons, but I can't remember where to find that. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBrower Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 That's excellent. Thank you. Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j8ksdad Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 Many thanks to you all! I'll eat when I'm hungry. I'll drink when I'm dry. If the hard times don't kill me I'll lay down and die. Rye whiskey! Rye whiskey! Rye whiskey I cry. If you don't give me rye whiskey, I surely will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsbagley Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 That's excellent. Thank you. You're welcome! And since we are on the topic of buttons, below is a picture of some passementerie buttons made for me by Diosa and crew... For a coat that will not likely get made until August because of my current project list.... There were more of these buttons in the auction for the Santa Maria event, and I think they went for way too cheap, someone got a really good deal on those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBrower Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Oh my goodness, they are so pretty! OK.. This is sort of silly, but related to the buttons, how is "passementerie" pronounced? lol. I'm going to give those a shot. What is the circumference of those? Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsbagley Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Oh my goodness, they are so pretty!OK.. This is sort of silly, but related to the buttons, how is "passementerie" pronounced? lol. I'm going to give those a shot. What is the circumference of those? I think they are made on 3/8 inch wooden beads? The total diameter is about 1/2 inch? Although you could aim for larger or smaller bead depending on your needs, I just really like the finer buttons. I guess I should have thrown a penny or other coin into the picture for scale when I took that. As for pronouncing the word... I will try... PASS-i-ment-tar-ee If you say it with a French accent (don't overdo it though) you will likely be saying it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBrower Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I haven't picked up the wooden beads yet, but I did make these out of nylon washers from Home Depot... Would a button like this be appropriate for a Justaucorps? (or however that's spelled...) Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsbagley Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I haven't picked up the wooden beads yet, but I did make these out of nylon washers from Home Depot... Would a button like this be appropriate for a Justaucorps? (or however that's spelled...) NICE work!!! Yeah, I can't see why such buttons would not work for a Justacorps, outside of not knowing the real timeline for the Death's Head buttons... I think they are appropriate for our time, but I am uncertain... I learned about them on a 18th century forum that focusses mostly on later 18th century stuff, and not having done any research on them, I can;t say they are correct for GAoP or not... But speaking for myself, if I saw those on a coat at an event, I would be too busy being impressed by the amount of work and artistry that went into them than caring if they were absolutely correct for the period or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkie McDonough Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) I thought someone posted directions or a link for the directions to these buttons but I can't seem to find it. Can someone assist me? Edited June 26, 2009 by Silkie McDonough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsbagley Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I thought someone posted directions or a link for the directions to these buttons but I can't seem to find it. Can someone assist me? About half-way down This Page P.S. I will be moving this thread to the Sewing Room area, as it fits more there as it really is more about how to make them than a discussion on provenance. Hope no one minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkie McDonough Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Thank you Michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) There is a booklet on Death Head buttons which may pinpoint the actual time period... by Norman Fuss. William Booth, Draper sells copies... wouldn't hurt to ask him about the dates...the man is very good with what he sells... from what I have read on the item, I am under the impression that they are a later style button, as they run into the 19th century, but I have never run across specific dates as of yet... and Mickey, since the question was for cloth buttons, didn't you once post a thread on the cloth buttons you made, circles of fabric stuffed... not thread buttons like the Dorsets and Death Heads.. Edited June 27, 2009 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I just asked him over at Living History Worldwide... I will let you know what he has to say about them...as of last Feb., our time frame is not his but he has been looking into it since we last talked.. he is a splendid sutler and truly goes out of his way to help when he can. "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsbagley Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 There is a booklet on Death Head buttons which may pinpoint the actual time period... by Norman Fuss. William Booth, Draper sells copies... wouldn't hurt to ask him about the dates...the man is very good with what he sells... from what I have read on the item, I am under the impression that they are a later style button, as they run into the 19th century, but I have never run across specific dates as of yet...and Mickey, since the question was for cloth buttons, didn't you once post a thread on the cloth buttons you made, circles of fabric stuffed... not thread buttons like the Dorsets and Death Heads.. Actually, wife and I picked up the "Death's head Buttons" book when we were in St.Mary's City last weekend, and the earliest sample shown in that book are dated to 1710... So they did exist at least towards the end of the GAoP. And as for cloth covered buttons, I think the below image is what you may have been alluding to... My Justacorps with far too many buttons and button holes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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