Tartan Jack Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Do those 2 lower ones already have a claimant, whose wife will be none-to-happy when she "discovers" 2 useless hunks of wood are in his road-sloop? I like the way those look! -John "Tartan Jack" Wages, of South Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutlerjon Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Why Jack did I not add that one of those will specially weighted so she beat you senseless? Those are your cannons ..... I lay awake half the night designing carriages in me head. Now my head hurts ..... not as much as yours will. HAHAHAHAHAHA Self Promoter Jim Pirate Gear oldsutlerjohn.biz American Civil War oldsutlerjohn.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Jack Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) Why Jack did I not add that one of those will specially weighted so she beat you senseless?Those are your cannons ..... I lay awake half the night designing carriages in me head. Now my head hurts ..... not as much as yours will. HAHAHAHAHAHA Once I get over my strep throat, I'll feel MUCH better! Also, . . . I LOVE the fact that they aren't identical, but are similar. It looks better that way, more authentic. Edited May 19, 2009 by Tartan Jack -John "Tartan Jack" Wages, of South Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutlerjon Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 The beginnings of the carriages, I think they're proportionate. Wheels will be 4" diameter should bring them up to about 10" to trunions. I think that's about right. Thjere will be some trimming and shaping of the top most board. Self Promoter Jim Pirate Gear oldsutlerjohn.biz American Civil War oldsutlerjohn.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 If you terminate the carriage wood at the truniun centerline and take some copper tubing and bang it flat you can easilly make the curvature match the truniuns and it will look much nicer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutlerjon Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 I'm planning on somethin' like that ... Self Promoter Jim Pirate Gear oldsutlerjohn.biz American Civil War oldsutlerjohn.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutlerjon Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Scrapped the last carriage... this ones better! This is the one I'll even do plans for (hint to Mr. Thatcher) Added copper straps for the trunion caps. I'll do axles and wheels in a little bit and we'll see how it comes out ... Trial and error engineering on the fly. Self Promoter Jim Pirate Gear oldsutlerjohn.biz American Civil War oldsutlerjohn.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkie McDonough Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I had to take a diversionary break from gettin things ready fer Hampton, this is how I spent me mornin' Ans now it has become the focus of a full fledged project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Jack Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Idea: Sell plans, included when buy a quaker gun barrel. I'll end up needing 2 sets of carriages. 1) one to stand alone, correct proportions 2) one to mount in windows (must be 18-20 inches tall, to trunions) -John "Tartan Jack" Wages, of South Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Swab Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 If you want your axles to be more correct use a piece of squared wood and turn the ends round then turn them down to the axle diameter. The square section mounts on the carriage and the first round keeps the wheels from going all the way into the carriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutlerjon Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Here it is for this incarnation, needs to stained and glued and puttied and sanded. Silkie, it's become more than a time waster that's for sure! Nancy says obsession, I say passion Tomato, Tomahtoe. Self Promoter Jim Pirate Gear oldsutlerjohn.biz American Civil War oldsutlerjohn.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Jack Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Either way, I LOVE em! -John "Tartan Jack" Wages, of South Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutlerjon Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Thanks, Jack. The second carriage is under construction .... Self Promoter Jim Pirate Gear oldsutlerjohn.biz American Civil War oldsutlerjohn.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn Bob Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I would love to get a bunch o' these, cut gunports in me porch, and mount them all sides. But I don't have the doubloons for it, me elderly mother might object, and the neighbors would likely give me funny looks and call the ATF goons. But I'd be interested in at least one "swivel gun" model sometime... And the photos make me drool *almost* as much as a good spall of obsidian... Damn, thats sharp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Jack Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) These are 20-ish inches long, which puts them in the ballpark for rail guns. Now that he has the know-how, 4 foot long ones should be well reasonable. A Minion is about 7-8 feet long, with some I've seen closer to 6. These are 1/3 to 1/4 scale, due to their specific application. They are going to be mounted in a vehicle that has a 4-foot wide area and I want both to be able to be set end-to-end with the barrels facing the side windows. Hence, they are scaled down. Wood guns, however, are perfectly legit historically. They were known as "Quakers" and were used to "supplement" the real iron and bronze guns on deck. Thereby, pirates increased their intimidation factor with little extra weight added (which affects draft and speed). I've often wondered what portion of guns on real pirate ships were Quakers and what were firing iron. Edited May 20, 2009 by Tartan Jack -John "Tartan Jack" Wages, of South Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrateleather Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Wood guns, however, are perfectly legit historically. They were known as "Quakers" and were used to "supplement" the real iron and bronze guns on deck. Thereby, pirates increased their intimidation factor with little extra weight added (which affects draft and speed).I've often wondered what portion of guns on real pirate ships were Quakers and what were firing iron. Interesting tidbit I hadn't heard before. Thanks for sharing. sutlerjon, VERY NICE WORK INDEED! http://www.PyrateTradingCompany.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutlerjon Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 1 more to paint and these'll be ready to go to their new gun deck. Thanks Pyrate Leather I always appreciate the compliments. Self Promoter Jim Pirate Gear oldsutlerjohn.biz American Civil War oldsutlerjohn.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Petee Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 When I made my Carbide canon, I mixed a little bit of sand in with the paint for texture, works pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutlerjon Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) I would love to get a bunch o' these, cut gunports in me porch, and mount them all sides. But I don't have the doubloons for it, me elderly mother might object, and the neighbors would likely give me funny looks and call the ATF goons.But I'd be interested in at least one "swivel gun" model sometime... And the photos make me drool *almost* as much as a good spall of obsidian... Cap'n Bob you said ya wanted a swivel for the liberry? Damn, I'm an evil so & so ..... I have a better swivel in process now. This pictures almost like an old Guccione shot, ain't it. Hahahahahaha! Edited May 21, 2009 by sutlerjon Self Promoter Jim Pirate Gear oldsutlerjohn.biz American Civil War oldsutlerjohn.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Handed Jill Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 When I made my Carbide canon, I mixed a little bit of sand in with the paint for texture, works pretty good. Roofing adhesive works pretty well also. Here's a PVC theatrical charge cannon that Jack hasn't gotten around to converting to carbide: (Yes, it's on a land carriage - he made it for a Scottish reenactment group.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutlerjon Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's really nice, something for me to aspire to! Self Promoter Jim Pirate Gear oldsutlerjohn.biz American Civil War oldsutlerjohn.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSatan Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I am very fond of metallic paints such as Sophisticated Finishes. The iron paint looks great on both wood and plastic. They even make a rust finish that adds a lot of realism to a wooden prop. Even up close the painted material looks like metal. Sophisticated Finishes As we say in Ireland let's drink until the alcohol in our system destroys our liver and kills us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Handed Jill Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's really nice, something for me to aspire to! Yeah, but carving one out of wood - my hat's off to ya. Good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.man Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 ever think of selling them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callenish gunner Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) Cap'n Bob you said ya wanted a swivel for the liberry? Damn, I'm an evil so & so ..... I have a better swivel in process now. This pictures almost like an old Guccione shot, ain't it. Hahahahahaha! NOPE!!! Guccione usually only took photos of much BIGGER "GUNS"!!!! ...& with less coats of any kind of finish Edited May 28, 2009 by callenish gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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