lady constance Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 kate and cheeky and lady brower.... can all of you upload a pic fo the back side ofyour mantuas? working on a pattern from a dress and added extra material for the gathering it needs to be mantua.... i box pleated center back and then the sides... not draping the way i like... undid said stitching and left center back box pleat and then box pleated again -- enclosed a larger box pleat around the center back one.......... FABULOUS DISCOVERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR MAKING THE FABRIC HOLD THE MOONSHAPED DRAPING with the frontmoonshaped pleats----- the mantu seems to be draping/ hanging the way woodcuts and art work depicts them hanging.... oh happy fault!! { well aint that a catholic[sic* universal*] thought}.......... i am just soooooooooooo delighted with the result of my happy mistake!! but perhaps my eyes are once again playing tricks on me...{ i just had eye exam today-- } can you all { and anyone else who has mantua} show the BACK of the gown ???????? thank you all in advance..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky Actress Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) enclosed a larger box pleat around the center back one. FABULOUS DISCOVERY FOR MAKING THE FABRIC HOLD THE MOONSHAPED DRAPING with the front moon shaped pleats. The mantua seems to be draping/ hanging the way woodcuts and art work depicts them hanging.... oh happy fault!! I am just soooooooooooo delighted with the result of my happy mistake!! Lady Constance, Could you post a photo of this? I am curious about the way the back looks. So, please correct me if I am wrong. You only have one main pleat (this double-box pleat?) on your Mantua's back? Edited February 10, 2009 by Cheeky Actress Member of "The Forsaken" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBrower Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I don't think this is right, but it's what I did... Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky Actress Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) Oh, I see...you just opted to make your pleats in a 'v' shape and not do so many of them. Waugh pattern shows about 2 or 3 on each side of the center seam. Looking at the skirting of the mantua...did you pleat the robe? Cannot wait to see what it looks like when completed. Edited February 11, 2009 by Cheeky Actress Member of "The Forsaken" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) delete Edited February 16, 2009 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBrower Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Ah yes. I think its just habit... All my civil war skirts went in towards the back. "Looking at the skirting of the mantua...did you pleat the robe?" Well, I wasn't really using a pattern, but looking at one from Janet Arnold "Patterns of fashion" and just draping and pleating, so I don't know if this is going to make sense, but it's not two separate pieces, but I shaped the back and the front, then cut the middle, so there is actually a side seem but the skirt is all one piece... does that make sense? I think the overall style is a little late but It gave me some good practice.... I think I need an actual pattern. All this "winging it" is creating wrongish stuff. lol Thanks for the help. Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady constance Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 sorry ladies-- i have not gotten silas to upload my pics....{ sorry the camera and photo bucket are beyond my skills--actually they are beyond my limited amount of time to post on the web.... dont know if i am slow learner, or out of guilt, cant ignore my kids/ families pressing needs... easier to let silas have the time and me manage other issues!!} i took an elizabethan pattern for a dress, placed the pieces on pattern drafting 1 inch blocked square material... then i used some ideas from pattern making for theater for cut of skirt shape added to the elzabethan dress pattern...nad from janet arnold and nora waugh....... actuallly i am wondering if instead of my bellshaped curve for the skirt cut if it should be the opposite direction concave versus convex for the proper draping........ i am working in junk fabric { half linen/ half cotton} and just baste stitching... i promise to beg silas to post them....... sendhim a PM tellinghim to do so { there are soooooooooo many ways to skin a cat!!} Lady Brower------- you freaking amaze me!! why do yah have to live so darn far away.... and HOW long have you been sewing???????? you are a marvel! i want your sewing skills!! import them to me! LOL..... capn sterlin--- how about some of he mantuas you have made for your daughter? cheeky--- please post close ups of the back... PRETTY please! kate souris--- post teh back of that lovely mantua yah just finished! PLEASE! LADY constance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) delete Edited February 16, 2009 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Souris Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I have posted this before, but it is hard to see because of the pattern in the fabric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady constance Posted February 12, 2009 Author Share Posted February 12, 2009 the back and fronts are attached currently..... please note the bellshape of the back pattern peice----do you all have a curve like this to the sides of the front pieces and back of the gown? for the folds/draping ? or do you have wedge shaped pieces that are inserted between front and back panels?{ for drape/folds/ curving of the gown } and i might even try box pleating the sides...... kind of a v shaped box pleat.. narrow at the top and v'ed off towards the bottom........... and then sewing on an elipse under the underside that cannot be seen........ i do definitely need a body double of the hips.....and thebumm roll and all the underskirts on......arghhhhhhh..... { i keep telling myself this is fun-- and i am learning all the way..........all the time.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady constance Posted February 12, 2009 Author Share Posted February 12, 2009 and i thank you , THANK YOU lady souris! i can barely make out the pleating{my problem!}--- is it angled on the sides of the gown , yet straight down the back?--- AND you too, a fabulous job sewing!!! jolly goood job! lady constance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) delete Edited February 16, 2009 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) delete Edited February 16, 2009 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Souris Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Mine is from the same pattern as Bean's...so yes, the pleats are a little angled. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 (edited) delete Edited February 16, 2009 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Souris Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Oh wait no...Waugh. I am pretty sure it is the Waugh. I mis read what you typed ....or didn't read it carefully enough. Either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsbagley Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Nah, she's just picked up her husband's stupidity when it comes to confusing Waugh and Arnold's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Souris Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Stupidity through osmosis.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBarbossa Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Kate... I LOVE that! :) ~Lady B Tempt Fate! an' toss 't all t' Hell!" "I'm completely innocent of whatever crime I've committed." The one, the only,... the infamous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 (edited) delete Edited February 16, 2009 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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