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'Capt. Sterling'... I have finally, completely lost my mind and am actually embroidering a new coat and waistcoat...
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Oooo! Okay, I have to ask. What colour is the coat and waistcoat and what colour with the stump work be? Are we looking at early American/Colonial - New England themes here? Pictures Please!

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'Capt. Sterling'... I have finally, completely lost my mind and am actually embroidering a new coat and waistcoat...
.

Oooo! Okay, I have to ask. What colour is the coat and waistcoat and what colour with the stump work be? Are we looking at early American/Colonial - New England themes here? Pictures Please!

nosy aren't we?


"I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers

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Man's wool coat embroidered in silver and silver gilt thread, worn by James, Duke of York at his wedding in 1673. No not ribbon embroidery. Tis padded and raised central elements achieved by wrapping silver thread around parchment strips... and couching is done as well on it.


"I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers

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Cheeky I found it here

16th and 17th Century Coifs

There are a few really gorgeous examples.

I LOVE this one.

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the flower center left is beautiful.. looks like the center petals are crochet.

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Yes...I guess I am...but you put it out there...right there...for me to pounder about. Come now...do Tell!!!

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Cheeky I found it here

16th and 17th Century Coifs

There are a few really gorgeous examples.

I LOVE this one.

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the flower center left is beautiful.. looks like the center petals are crochet.

Beautiful but not for our time frame, I'm afraid...


"I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers

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Man's wool coat embroidered in silver and silver gilt thread, worn by James, Duke of York at his wedding in 1673. No not ribbon embroidery. Tis padded and raised central elements achieved by wrapping silver thread around parchment strips... and couching is done as well on it.

I think this is the 'Wedding Outfit' in which the Captain is speaking about. Captain would this have been a transition from the Petticoat Breeches of the time?

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Is it really such a sin to use some minor items that are pre period?? it could easily have been my great grandmothers.

I would think a girl might inherit certain pieces from her mother or grandmother that in good condition she might wear, or adapt or repurpose, especially if the piece was hand made by the family member. I'm not so sure that a style of embroidery or lace making would really change so much in 20 years. I can see clothing styles changing drastically, but little embellishments that had some sentimentality? I'm not so sure those women were that different from us. I have some things of my great- grandmothers that I still incorporated into my everyday wear, scarves and clips, collars, gloves and hats and such, Ok I'm not your average person but I imagine it was more common then than now considering the cost of clothing. Am I wrong??

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Is it really such a sin to use some minor items that are pre period?? it could easily have been my great grandmothers.

I would think a girl might inherit certain pieces from her mother or grandmother that in good condition she might wear, or adapt or repurpose, especially if the piece was hand made by the family member. I'm not so sure that a style of embroidery or lace making would really change so much in 20 years. I can see clothing styles changing drastically, but little embellishments that had some sentimentality? I'm not so sure those women were that different from us. I have some things of my great- grandmothers that I still incorporated into my everyday wear, scarves and clips, collars, gloves and hats and such, Ok I'm not your average person but I imagine it was more common then than now considering the cost of clothing. Am I wrong??

Nell, while what you propose makes sense from a certain standpoint, think of the counter debates to your line of reasoning. Most average people of the day had only one set of clothing, sometimes two. If you wore the same set of clothing every day for 20 years what kind of shape would you think it would be in? even with regular repairs.

Modernly we have many sets of clothing, most of which only gets worn once every week or two, so we can keep clothing for years with out it falling apart, this was not the case back then.

This is rally just my opinion, but the whole "inheritted clothing/accessories" thing really doesn't fly in my mind because they wore their clothing more and more harshly back then than we do today.

As an example, the only item of clothing I come close to wearing every day are my shoes, I am fairly certain that I am not as hard on my shoes as they were back then, but I am harder on my shoes than most modern follks... And I rarely have a pair of shoes last me more than 6 to 8 months.

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Is it really such a sin to use some minor items that are pre period?? it could easily have been my great grandmothers.

I would think a girl might inherit certain pieces from her mother or grandmother that in good condition she might wear, or adapt or repurpose, especially if the piece was hand made by the family member. I'm not so sure that a style of embroidery or lace making would really change so much in 20 years. I can see clothing styles changing drastically, but little embellishments that had some sentimentality? I'm not so sure those women were that different from us. I have some things of my great- grandmothers that I still incorporated into my everyday wear, scarves and clips, collars, gloves and hats and such, Ok I'm not your average person but I imagine it was more common then than now considering the cost of clothing. Am I wrong??

To further support Michael:

Nell, it really depends on the status of your character, and your characters family. If you are a more common impression, you may have a cherished heirloom tucked away somewhere ~ but it would be just that ~ carefully stored, brought out on rare occaision. The same as now ~ you may occaisionally wear your grandmothers diamond wedding ring, but not every day. And, I think the time frame for that embroidery piece may be closer to a 50 year difference ~ early 1600s. Not to mention ~ if it was your grandmothers heirloom, or trade it for a piece of bread or a nip of rum to sustain you for another 3 days ~ which would you choose?

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Wills do show that items of clothing were passed down,(and from Rev. War times seems shoes were often passed down as well) but it seems what we mainly see "saved" are usually items belonging to the upper class. Too often clothes were reworked to fit the more current styles, or cut down for others in the family and then reworked again... one could also turn around and sell garments to the second hand shops...


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:::nods::: Very true.

Vintage Textiles has a couple 18th c items that survived. One dress was kept but was Willed to become furniture upholstry! Yikes! Good thing the dress was never cut up. It's absolutely gorgeous.

Ehhh.. I'll try and post from 18th Century Embroidery Techniques . Some nice info in there on ribbon embroidery. As well as lots of other stuff.

If anyone can... I recommend getting the book.

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Mary your right.. I just realized it said "EARLY" 17th Century... ok closer to 50 years..

Still I'm.curious did patterns for embroidery and or lace really change that much?

might you have found remnants of fabric that might not have been used (I save even the smallest scraps) which might later be used as a collar or for trim or cuffs on another piece?

My mother recently came across hand crocheted lace her mom made and sent it to me, and it was crocheted in the 20's, and was never used. Women of wealth and leisure back then crocheted and embroidered to pass the time right? might you have found something your mother made and used it? I know its not the same period but hey Scarlett O'Hara used curtains LOL!

Just trying to figure out what's kosher before I begin the design process. I plan to make some simple clothing but I also want something fabulous. If I'm going to invest a whole bunch of time and money, and attempt to make myself a gorgeous gown I want it to be everything it can be and then some. I want a lot of hand made details, and I want them to be right.

I'm dreaming of ....

fabrics and notions, and trims Oh my!

and seeing all this gorgeous work has my head spinning...in a good way! Thanks so much for all these threads and photos

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"I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers

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  • 4 weeks later...

My mother tried to get me to cross-stitch when I was little... I wasn't so good at it because I kept trying to change the pattern... But now 15 years later I am going to try some embroidery. Needless to say, I am not ready for the beautiful designs that you wonderful people have been posting. Does anyone have any suggestions for sources of period technique? like, "18th century embroidery for Dummies"? or any beginning embroidery "how to" and period designs.

Many thanks as always.

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