GentlemenScotty Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 greetins' me fellow seafarers! my question(tis me first ..so bear wit me please) is what a proper pirate wore atop his head? i know headscarves are debatable..tis tricorns the norm? plain or were some fancy with satin edging? saw in gents of fortune -black-grey and brown twar common.. believe i once saw a photo from a museum of..if memory is correct dutch sailors with straw tricorns- true that be? what is ye opinion-what tis acceptable to ye ?
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Ahoy mate. Check out the Captain Twill forum section. These things are discussed there in great detail/debate, and most clothing issues are "pinned" at the top of the page. Welcome sir, and have a great time! Bo
Poopdeck Pappy Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 What does everyone think of the seagrass hats made by Capt. Jacks Pirate Hat. They may not by proper but I think they would be cool on a hot SoCal day. BATTLESAIL
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Don't forget the Monmouth caps. For cooler weather they are the best! GoF had some for sale at one time, an I have one. Silk "doo-rags" of solid colors are a good and inexpensive investment as well. A wool-felt hat can be made into any number of PC designs, not necessarily a Tricorn, but can be floppy or pinned on one side. Linen watch caps, or workmans caps are yet another option. What is your main interst as far as your portrayal? Who ya gonna be? Bo
theM.A.dDogge Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Don't forget the Monmouth caps. For cooler weather they are the best! GoF had some for sale at one time, an I have one. Silk "doo-rags" of solid colors are a good and inexpensive investment as well. A wool-felt hat can be made into any number of PC designs, not necessarily a Tricorn, but can be floppy or pinned on one side. Linen watch caps, or workmans caps are yet another option. What is your main interst as far as your portrayal? Who ya gonna be?Bo oi...wot he said.... some head coverings wouldnt be proper for certain impressions.....some would set the character perfectly...... so i recon the first question is....:who you want to be??
GentlemenScotty Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 Don't forget the Monmouth caps. For cooler weather they are the best! GoF had some for sale at one time, an I have one. Silk "doo-rags" of solid colors are a good and inexpensive investment as well. A wool-felt hat can be made into any number of PC designs, not necessarily a Tricorn, but can be floppy or pinned on one side. Linen watch caps, or workmans caps are yet another option. What is your main interst as far as your portrayal? Who ya gonna be?Bo oi...wot he said.... some head coverings wouldnt be proper for certain impressions.....some would set the character perfectly...... so i recon the first question is....:who you want to be?? looter-raider-head breaker! oooo? gotcha-gotta think it thru 1st-good advice gents! i'm tryin get wet hind ye ears :] so each and every has a place on the crew.. and i need ta learn the ropes so let me start as a general laborer on thy crew workin' on gatherin' a simple outfit ta start.. got me shirt-headscarf-sash-waitin on me slops that led to my question about the straw tricorn-museum illustration i saw-seemed the crew was wearing lot of-but think were dutch?? let me assure ye kind sirs i'm all ears-i want ta learn :] thank ye' in advance for any a suggestion! :] GS
theM.A.dDogge Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 here are but a few....styles for examples
theM.A.dDogge Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 linnen workmans cap probably dont want to go this route.....
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 One more time... the wooly-buggar Monmouth cap-(I gotta get some new pics, this one is even gettin old to ME!) Look for the "You in your garb" thread. You'll see lotsa variety there as well, or try the photo thread from Pirates in Paradise too. Don't be afraid to ask, there are plenty of folks here willing to help. Bo
LadyBrower Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Anyone have any easy-to-find sources for info on those linen caps? I'd like to find me a pattern... Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle
blackjohn Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 There is also the thrum cap, as sported by Scurvy Hanna on our left. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
blackjohn Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 And there's the montero cap... which was once discussed on the Pirate Brethren forum some time ago... My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
blackjohn Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 oh... and there's my unfinished article on hats... written a couple years ago... I have no idea what it says, but I recall there are a bunch of illustrations of period hats... http://www.piratebrethren.com/articles/hats/hats01.html My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
theM.A.dDogge Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 There is also the thrum cap, as sported by Scurvy Hanna on our left. ok...i know i asked this before....but where did scurvy Hanna git the thrum??....i am lookin for a pattern....or a dealer.....tried to contact the one in United Kigdom...no reply... can a monmouth be altered into a thrum???
GentlemenScotty Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 many many thanks to ye' all true fonts ye' all be and many an idea fer me!! MAdDogge ye' looks right dashing in thy hats but.. what the #*%l is that white thing?? a post grog headscarf? :] GS
blackjohn Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 ok...i know i asked this before....but where did scurvy Hanna git the thrum??....i am lookin for a pattern....or a dealer.....tried to contact the one in United Kigdom...no reply... If you did, I didn't see it. My apologies. He got his thrum cap from a woman we know who does sutlering... and what her shop is called totally escapes my mind at present. I'll dig through my stuff and find and email address and send it your way. can a monmouth be altered into a thrum??? Good question. I suppose one might be able to... technically it is just the left over bits (thrum) from the loom attached to some sort of knitted base. One site that I was able to find suggested the following as a reference, "17th Century Knitting Patterns - As Adapted for Plimoth Plantation." My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
Fox Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 can a monmouth be altered into a thrum??? Some people will doubtless tell you that 'that's not how thrum hats were made', but since we don't have any extant ones to my knowledge, the matter is wide open for debate. I've made several thrum hats using a monmouth cap as a base. Two tips: 1. Use a rug hook, it's by far the easiest way of attaching the thrums; 2. make sure that the hat you start with is a little too big, as the hat will shrink slightly with the addition of the thrums. Foxe"With this Fore-Staff he fansies he does Wonders, when, God knows, it amounts to no more but only to solve that simple Question, Where are we? Which every chi'd in London can tell you." - Ned Ward The Wooden World Dissected, 1707ETFox.co.uk
Patrick Hand Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 can a monmouth be altered into a thrum??? I don't know if a monmouth can be modified, but when I made a thrum cap, I started by knitting a monmouth cap, and every 3 to 4 stitches, worked a half hitched 6" to 8" chunk of yarn on the "working yarn" into the cap. I made the cap almost twice as large as I wanted it finished and then felted it by running it through the washing machine and drier on hot.... The biggest problem with a thrum cap is that it it way too hot to ever wear (even in Winter)... and people keep asking you about a "Bad hair day".....
theM.A.dDogge Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 can a monmouth be altered into a thrum??? I don't know if a monmouth can be modified, but when I made a thrum cap, I started by knitting a monmouth cap, and every 3 to 4 stitches, worked a half hitched 6" to 8" chunk of yarn on the "working yarn" into the cap. I made the cap almost twice as large as I wanted it finished and then felted it by running it through the washing machine and drier on hot.... The biggest problem with a thrum cap is that it it way too hot to ever wear (even in Winter)... and people keep asking you about a "Bad hair day"..... yah...but since me "golden locks" were stolenat PiP....been needin a "welsh wig"...or a foppy one...to look presentable again....
theM.A.dDogge Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 ok...saw a sutler who had 2 types of thrums.....domed or sugarloafed...... are we asumming the "sugarloafed"...is the more appropriate style of thrum???...or is any style appropriate??
blackjohn Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Ok, and I found the email address for the sutler selling the hat Scurvy Hanna is wearing... leigh at dandy dot net. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Anyone have any easy-to-find sources for info on those linen caps? I'd like to find me a pattern... Sorry, meant to adress this in the last post... Try Smoke-n-Fire company, or James Townsend & Sons. They both offer ready-made, and I'm pretty certain S&F has patterns. Bo
Graydog Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Don't forget the "Peter the Great" as a hat option as well if you want a knitted hat with a brim. Why am I sharing my opinion? Because I am a special snowflake who has an opinion of such import that it must be shared and because people really care what I think!
LadyBrower Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 I couldn't find the patterns... Has anyone tried to make one before? Or have any good pictures/ sketches? Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle
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