Matty Bottles Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I just got a grappling hook from taylor-rose outfitters, and I'm looking for some line to tie to it. Anyone have a good source for PC line? "The time was when ships passing one another at sea backed their topsails and had a 'gam,' and on parting fired guns; but those good old days have gone. People have hardly time nowadays to speak even on the broad ocean, where news is news, and as for a salute of guns, they cannot afford the powder. There are no poetry-enshrined freighters on the sea now; it is a prosy life when we have no time to bid one another good morning." - Capt. Joshua Slocum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelsbagley Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I just got a grappling hook from taylor-rose outfitters, and I'm looking for some line to tie to it. Anyone have a good source for PC line? Do you mean rope? If so, RH carries hemp rope. It's not cheap. I've bought some in the past, but I burn through rope so quickly I have switched back to subsituting less accurate sisal or jute because it is so much cheaper. Out of the two cheaper alternatives, I find jute has a better look and feel than sisal does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Bottles Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Yeah, I mean rope. I hoped to find a cheapish source for hemp. Say, how long has manila been in use, I wonder? "The time was when ships passing one another at sea backed their topsails and had a 'gam,' and on parting fired guns; but those good old days have gone. People have hardly time nowadays to speak even on the broad ocean, where news is news, and as for a salute of guns, they cannot afford the powder. There are no poetry-enshrined freighters on the sea now; it is a prosy life when we have no time to bid one another good morning." - Capt. Joshua Slocum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 have to agree with michael on this. we use hemp for a lot of our projects and while it may be pretty its expensive and wears out just as quickly. unless the hook is going to be a major focal point of a display, go find 100 feet of sisal or jute at home depot or lowes for $10.00 and save your money for another project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Bottles Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Well, pragmatism (or penury, as the case may be) certainly appeals to me. I guess jute it is. "The time was when ships passing one another at sea backed their topsails and had a 'gam,' and on parting fired guns; but those good old days have gone. People have hardly time nowadays to speak even on the broad ocean, where news is news, and as for a salute of guns, they cannot afford the powder. There are no poetry-enshrined freighters on the sea now; it is a prosy life when we have no time to bid one another good morning." - Capt. Joshua Slocum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Matty pm Haunting Lily... she and Edward have found a rather good supplier and cheaper than most... Edward does a lot of rope work and has been rather pleased with the product... BTW, introduce yerself... both Lily and Edward are now part of the crewe "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadL Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Try here!: American Rope & Tar They have REAL tarred hemp marline ye can use splice yer line! None heavy enough for th' actual line less'n ye want Leoflex -X Rope (?? must be from them Spaniards 'er possible them Frenchies), but ye can also get genuine Stockholm Tar 'n tar yer own hemp rope! ~All skill be in vain if an angel pisses down th' barrel o' yer flintlock! So keep yer cutlass sharp, 'n keep her close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Alexander Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I do my fair share of rope work in our household and I have to say that RH hemp is very coarse & grainy. Not too mention pricey. I would recommend Hemp Traders. The quality of their product is outstanding. It's a more refined hemp product which makes it wonderful to work with and it looks great. I have been using it for all of the lanyards for the sea bags, ditty bags, beckets and I can't forget to mention our tent ropes. It truly is wonderful to work. Customer service is great and their prices are reasonable. http://www.hemptraders.com/ ps. Hello Bloody Jack Madd. Please pm me if you have any other questions. If you're gonna give me a headache, please bring me an aspirin! http://www.forttaylorpyrates.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Alexander Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) *Duplicate post Edited January 7, 2009 by Haunting Lily If you're gonna give me a headache, please bring me an aspirin! http://www.forttaylorpyrates.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I do my fair share of rope work in our household That's right ye do as well... my apologies Lady for not including ye... sorry tis a guy thing... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Oi Dutch isn't there a rope dealer in Hampton?? "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) "They have REAL tarred hemp marline ye can use splice yer line! None heavy enough for th' actual line less'n ye want Leoflex -X Rope (?? must be from them Spaniards 'er possible them Frenchies), but ye can also get genuine Stockholm Tar 'n tar yer own hemp rope!" hey folks, be REAL carefull if you decide to tar you're own. actually, unless you are versed in such things i would NOT advise doing it without a lot of research and forethought. edit* aye, we have a few close by and we can always procure bits and pieces for certain worthy projects. Edited January 7, 2009 by bbcddutchman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily Alexander Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 That's right ye do as well... my apologies Lady for not including ye... sorry tis a guy thing... My apologies Captain, tis not what I meant, only that I have used the rope and am speaking for myself. Here is a couple of pics showing the difference. RH on left, Hemp Traders on right A little blurry but............... If you're gonna give me a headache, please bring me an aspirin! http://www.forttaylorpyrates.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 sung to a catchy little sessame street tune. which one of these lines doesn't belong here. which one of these lines just isnt right. which one of these lines is laid the opposite way and will nut you up when you go to splice it actually once you realize where the difference is and play with it a while, you get used to it, but that first time is a lulu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleneckhalfshell Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Ok, just a quick question, Left hand or Right hand laid rope? That is the difference and I know that left hand laid rope is the rarer of the two, but something in the back of my head says that left hand laid rope was often the preferred one for Gun Tackles as it was not as stiff, but I can't seem to find the reference. Most Normal rope is usually laid right handed. And just another note, Rope is usually an inch or more in circumference anything smaller is called a line or cord, etc. So a quarter inch diameter is a line and a three eighths inch diameter is a rope. No Fear Have Ye of Evil Curses says you... Aye,... Properly Warned Ye Be says I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadL Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Tar'n yer own rope: ye mean bout th' fumes, th' possibility o' exploding th' pot o' boil'n tar, th' chance o' catch'n it on fire, th' chances o' get'n boil'n tar on ye 'n cause'n sever burn, n' get'n th' stuff in yer hair? Or is there more t' be concerned with? ~All skill be in vain if an angel pisses down th' barrel o' yer flintlock! So keep yer cutlass sharp, 'n keep her close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 (edited) i've never heard a reason why they were layed differently. Halfshell, you are partially right. (modern- yes you are correct- GAOP- not so much, rope is still on the spool and has not been messed with- it is often referred to as tackle. as soon as it comes off it becomes a line if it is coiled without a purpose, regardles of diameter- otherwise it becomes its inteded purpose. a halyard, brace, hawser, etc... our forefathers did not cut rope for the sake of cutting rope. it stayed on the spool till it was to serve a purpose. Much to valuable to waste. Colonial virginia notes refer to seizing tackle off of prize ships for storage or reappropriation to ships of the line. edit* aye madL. exactly. If you come to the blackbeard festival I'll introduce you to some lucky SOB's!!! Edited January 8, 2009 by bbcddutchman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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