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Thanks to Sutler Jon I have obtained a good number of camp items for around our tent. The chest that I purchased was very nice, and the size was perfect for all of my most important items to be stowed away. I really need one that is larger for my non-pc items that need to be at the ready, but out of sight. I'll be contacting the good Sutler for it. I also have tables and chairs from him as well, they were in the front of our tent and worked beautifully. Fine work indeed! BTW- the chest is drying beautifully, as the wood was so fresh it was still seeping a bit. It is doing well. I found that the camp furniture that John built was also very functional, as it all folds up for storage or travel. I will try to post a picture of it this weekend.

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I just came across this. 1640's Bible Box (Nautical Desk) belonging to Royal Governor Alexander Spotswood of Virginia.

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Carving on desk top. Reveals the letters H S & E (unclear when this was added and what the significance). The bible/nautical box itself was manufactured in England c.1640's. The stand was added afterwards in America (by American craftsmen) in the early 1700's.

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Desk hinge with hand hewn nails (rose head nails), notice the circular ink jar stain (ring)

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The mirror is a 20th century addition.

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I've been looking at a lot of desks and I come across two types all of the time. The 'slant front' or 'slope front' desk which hinges at the top and the 'drop front' or 'drop leaf' desk which hinges at the bottom. I have found a lot more 'drop front' desks, and I can easily see why, as a slant front desk (hinged at the top) would be murder on fingers every time the lid came down. This would be especially true in rough seas.

Here is a drop front (drop leaf) desk of 1710.

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And one of 1709.

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In the book "The Restoration Warship" by Richard Endsor there is a picture of a gateleg style oval table like the one pictured below that was recovered from the wreck of the Stirling Castle that sank in 1703. It belonged to the Gunner and was one of a number that were issued to the officers and high ranking members of the crew. There is a 1690 contract with Henry Ward from the Navy that mentions tables such as these being supplied to the boat yards in Chatham, UK (Interestingly the same guy also made 20 Hencoops).

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In the book "The Restoration Warship" by Richard Endsor there is a picture of a gateleg style oval table like the one pictured below that was recovered from the wreck of the Stirling Castle that sank in 1703. It belonged to the Gunner and was one of a number that were issued to the officers and high ranking members of the crew. There is a 1690 contract with Henry Ward from the Navy that mentions tables such as these being supplied to the boat yards in Chatham, UK (Interestingly the same guy also made 20 Hencoops).

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We need a pattern of that.

Not a bad likeness...

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A seller in the UK... http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/dining-tables/farmhouse-pine-farmhouse-oval-gateleg-pine-dining-table-915-073w.asp

 

 

 

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William,

Ron Fritz has a Google sketch-up model of a very similar table here: http://creeksidewoodshop.com/Creeksidewoodshop-Drawings/Tables/Drawings-Tables.html

Or one can purchase complete plans for £6 here: http://www.plansclub.com/Woodworking%20%27Information%20Store%27/Furniture%20Plans/gatelegtableplan.php

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Excellent find! Thank you for the link. It's nice to have more and more options for careening camp kit as well as my office at home. I can't wait to make one.

 

 

 

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Don't forget that the ships tables had a single drawer in it too. A lot of the modern ones don't come with that option.

The originals were made of Oak and had a Deal(?) wood top

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Another great example of early ships furniture is the officers chest found aboard the 1676 wreck of the Swedish ship Kronan

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http://www.kalmarlan...art_art-s1/1649

The first picture seems to show one of the large hinged door panels that would have closed to hold all the drawers in place when in transit. (I used to own a similar tool makers cabinet but much larger).

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In the book "The Restoration Warship" by Richard Endsor there is a picture of a gateleg style oval table like the one pictured below that was recovered from the wreck of the Stirling Castle that sank in 1703. It belonged to the Gunner and was one of a number that were issued to the officers and high ranking members of the crew. There is a 1690 contract with Henry Ward from the Navy that mentions tables such as these being supplied to the boat yards in Chatham, UK (Interestingly the same guy also made 20 Hencoops).

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That is virtually identical to my kitchen table - awesome!

(My kitchen table has fewer drawers and more dog-damage)

Foxe

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They come up on ebay now and then for next to nothing but they are always collection only and always way to far away to collect. I missed one in Liverpool last year because I was saving for a boat which I didnt win in the end either.

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In the book "The Restoration Warship" by Richard Endsor there is a picture of a gateleg style oval table like the one pictured below that was recovered from the wreck of the Stirling Castle that sank in 1703. It belonged to the Gunner and was one of a number that were issued to the officers and high ranking members of the crew. There is a 1690 contract with Henry Ward from the Navy that mentions tables such as these being supplied to the boat yards in Chatham, UK (Interestingly the same guy also made 20 Hencoops).

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That is virtually identical to my kitchen table - awesome!

(My kitchen table has fewer drawers and more dog-damage)

There could have been well be dog- damage in real gaop furniture as well ;) ( and in present day... oh my home's poor doors...)

I dare to say that in this picture's table is quite similar to this (but there is the tablecloth so we will never know) http://i.telegraph.c...90_1716746c.jpg

Really beautiful furniture here great posts keep up the good work there.

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I never noticed that before but yes it could well be the same table. I have seen chairs similar to that too.

They are known as Queen Anne style chairs and you can come across modern reproductions quite easily.

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Looking closely at the picture of the chair under the dog it seems to have a cane work or rattan style seat rather than the cushioned leather or fabric seats that are more common. This one from a later period has a similar seat configuration:

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You can actually buy modern folding versions of the Queen Anne chairs :

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http://furniturefort.com/Chairs/Queen-Anne-Folding-Chair.php

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I have some chairs like that in my kitchen too...

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Next big event will be held in Foxe's kitchen!


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I've actually written to Christopher Clarke directly with questions about a few period items. They're great. I've seen a number of 'campaign furniture' suppliers that have nothing of 'the sea', which is one of the primary forms of travel for campaigns, so Christopher Clarke is more well rounded in what they offer.

I want the sea trunk they have in stock.

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Yeah, I liked that too... Mission or any of the other doc/apocathery types might like that "medical measuring cups" that were displayed there too.

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Yeah, I liked that too... Mission or any of the other doc/apocathery types might like that "medical measuring cups" that were displayed there too.

The medicine glass is interesting, indeed, but later period. (Not quite as late as I'd have guessed, though.)

They have neat leather fire buckets, although, again, later period.

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Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."

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I just won one of the tables on ebay for £20 ($35). It hasnt got a drawer in it but I am sure I can make one and fit it in.

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I have done numerous searches for portable kitchens, campaign kitchens, galleys on the go, whatever, that I've missed a very important piece of furniture from the period.

Chests on stands.

I've mistaken so may of these for dressers, that it never occured to me how many of them are two piece furniture items consisting of a 'chest' seated on a matching 'stand' of legs. Now that I know what I'm looking at I'm finding all sorts of chests on stands and cabinets on stands from the period. Examples...

Oak chest on stand.

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17th century chest on stand...

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Now that I know what I'm looking for, I've found sugar chests, rum chests, sea chests, medicine cabinets, and treasure chests all standing on matching 'stands'. Even the 'nautical desk' I posted on the previous page is nothing more than a writing desk modified with a 'stand'. We may be one step closer to a portable kitchen and other elusive campaign furniture of the Golden Age.

 

 

 

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