Red-Handed Jill Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Yeah, kind of reminds me of another reasonably successful movie that was cast with a number of unknowns - Star Wars.
JoshuaRed Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Here we go...PERFECT cast...you ready??? Peter Blood - Guy Pearce OR Christian Bale Arabella (Governor's Daughter/Niece/whatev) - Scarlett Johannsen Col. Bishop (the villian) - Tim Roth Or Russell Crowe
Capn Bob Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 We got some of the Sabatini books at me library, and of course, I tried to get into Captain Blood. However, I found Sabatini's style stilted and forced...the words don't flow all natural-like anymore... Damn, thats sharp!
Mission Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 If you want mainstream Hollywood to make a movie, you just about have to accept a pretty boy with a Name, I forget how much studios figure (or at least have convinced themselves to believe) that the lead male actor's name adds to the revenue generated by a typical movie, but it's significant. Leave us not forget that Errol and Olivia (de Havilland) were unknowns when this movie was made: this was the vehicle that made both of them. Errol had come over from England as a contract actor and had been cast as an extra in the movie. He was reluctantly given a screen test only after the film company had run out of "names" to use. Why not try for lightning again? Will pirate fans not go because they don't recognize the lead actor? That was an aberration. If it doesn't fit the Hollywood model, it's either an aberration or an independent film. (One could almost argue that Lucas practically made an independent film which was turned down by some studios, but managed to sneak it into Fox because Alan Ladd was a fan of American Graffiti. (A story which is pretty amazing in itself.) Notice that he's since demanded independence from the H'wood mindset.) Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."
Captain Jim Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 If you want mainstream Hollywood to make a movie, you just about have to accept a pretty boy with a Name, I forget how much studios figure (or at least have convinced themselves to believe) that the lead male actor's name adds to the revenue generated by a typical movie, but it's significant. Leave us not forget that Errol and Olivia (de Havilland) were unknowns when this movie was made: this was the vehicle that made both of them. Errol had come over from England as a contract actor and had been cast as an extra in the movie. He was reluctantly given a screen test only after the film company had run out of "names" to use. Why not try for lightning again? Will pirate fans not go because they don't recognize the lead actor? That was an aberration. If it doesn't fit the Hollywood model, it's either an aberration or an independent film. (One could almost argue that Lucas practically made an independent film which was turned down by some studios, but managed to sneak it into Fox because Alan Ladd was a fan of American Graffiti. (A story which is pretty amazing in itself.) Notice that he's since demanded independence from the H'wood mindset.) Oh I agree, but we can always hope, as these are the stories that make us love Hollywood on occasion. My occupational hazard bein' my occupation's just not around...
Mission Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Oh I agree, but we can always hope, as these are the stories that make us love Hollywood on occasion. Like POTC:CotBP? That was a great movie IMO. You can pick many things apart on it, but it was the kind of movie that makes me love Hollywood. I had read it was not expected to be a big movie, although I don't know if that's true. Why is it that such a hub of alleged creativity as Hollywood is repeatedly startled by the relatively "non-standard" movies that become big hits? At least they let enough of them through to make it worth the ride. Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."
Iron Bess Posted September 29, 2008 Author Posted September 29, 2008 No matter who is in it or how big the budget it will never be as good as the original. Re makes never are. Well, you may not realize it but your looking at the remains of what was once a very handsome woman!
Captain Jim Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 I don't know...the original Capt Blood turned out to be a Flynn showpiece. Now replace all of that "clean" action with sweat and dirt, make it more realistic, perhaps make Blood a little bit more brooding as he has seen war and renounced violence but is, at his core, a man of violence. Introduce a vice, like drink, perhaps. Just don't make him cruel, except where affairs of the heart are concerned. I think it could be done. And Russel Crowe (or someone quite like him) as Blood, not the villain. My occupational hazard bein' my occupation's just not around...
Cascabel Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Aye, I think Crowe would be an excellent choice. I always thought Flynn was too much of a "pretty boy" to be believeable. I think the character needs to be a bit more gritty. Of course, Flynn was a product of the way movies were made at the time, when the hero was usually a pretty boy.... >>>> Cascabel
Rumba Rue Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 ....just something about those tight tights that give us women thoughts that can't even be printed....
Desert Dragoon Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Robert Downey Jr. He's the golden boy in Hollywood right now..
Iron Bess Posted October 6, 2008 Author Posted October 6, 2008 Robert Downey Jr. He's the golden boy in Hollywood right now.. Well, you may not realize it but your looking at the remains of what was once a very handsome woman!
Desert Dragoon Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 granted.. but you cannot deny that he's on a roll right now. Ironman definately boosted his career and while tropic thunder isn't for everyone.. his performance (along with everyone else in that film) in it was top notch.
Mission Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Doesn't it sort of depend on how they play him? I can't see Downey playing straight hero. Heck, I can't quite see him taking 'period' very seriously. If they want a sardonic, snarky Blood, Downey might work. John Goodman. (John Goodman is so cool.) Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate."
Dorian Lasseter Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) Sean Patrick Flanery or Norman Reedus for Peter Blood They might fit the bill, just dunno how they'd like doing a period type film... Edited October 6, 2008 by Dorian Lasseter Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org
Morgan Dreadlocke Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 Picked up a VHS copy last weekend. Not too keen on Flynn's attempts at piratical speech. Razil Bathbone as a french pirate was a hoot. I hope they fixes the plot hole whereby the 200,000 pieces 'o eight gets tellyported onta the ship while the Spanish pirates gets blowed ta 'ell PIRATES! Because ye can't do epic shyte wi' normal people.
blackjohn Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 Here we go...PERFECT cast...you ready??? Peter Blood - Guy Pearce OR Christian Bale Arabella (Governor's Daughter/Niece/whatev) - Scarlett Johannsen Col. Bishop (the villian) - Tim Roth Or Russell Crowe Good choices! Ha... and I like the idea of Downey as a snarky Capt Blood... I'd also think "dude who plays Bond right now" would do a good job. First thing I ever saw him in was the really cool version of Moll Flanders with Alex Kingston, where he did a great job at playing a highwayman. My Home on the Web The Pirate Brethren Gallery Dreams are the glue that holds reality together.
Tall Paul Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 For some reason, I have not been receiving the usual notifications about posts in this thread. I come back here to see the name of Robert Downey Jr being banded about! I just spent several days at Chattham docks (Where the Victory was Built) Watching Mr Downey Jr working through a fight scene for the new Sherlock Holmes movie, (Based on the Graphic Novel, not the Books, hence the action scenes.) I must confess, I was impressed by his commitment to the action. And The Idea of Downey as Peter Blood struck me. He is old enough to play someone who has seen active military service before "retiring" to become a country doctor. and once again, he has the lightness of touch that a Swashbuckler needs. At the moment, Mr Downey is high on my wish list of Actors to play Peter Blood. Cpt "Tall Paul" Adams Colchester Historical Enactment Society (C.H.E.S.)
Rumba Rue Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Hmmmmm......whatever happened to Oliver Reed?
Jack Roberts Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 He passed on. I believe Gladiator was his last film. They still had to digitally paste his face in certain scenes. I would like to see Hugh Jackman play the role. Seems like he could pull it off. But I'm with BlackJohn I've never seen it.
Poopdeck Pappy Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 I wonder who will play the role of Levasseur, Basil Rathbone was a great pirate. BATTLESAIL
Lady Cassandra Seahawke Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Hugh Jackman good choice. Female lead -mayhap... Laetita Casta Lady Cassandra Seahawke Captain of SIREN'S RESURRECTION, Her fleet JAGUAR'S SPIRIT, ROARING LION , SEA WITCH AND RED VIXEN For she, her captains and their crews are.... ...Amazon by Blood... ...... Warrior by Nature...... ............Pirate by Trade............ If'n ye hear ta Trill ye sure to know tat yer end be near...
Graydog Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Hmmmmm......whatever happened to Oliver Reed? Died- 2 May 1999 Why am I sharing my opinion? Because I am a special snowflake who has an opinion of such import that it must be shared and because people really care what I think!
Dorian Lasseter Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) Hmmmmm......whatever happened to Oliver Reed? Died- 2 May 1999 He died of a heart attack in a bar after downing three bottles of Captain Morgan's Jamaica rum, eight bottles of German beer, numerous doubles of Famous Grouse whiskey, and beating five much younger Royal Navy sailors at arm-wrestling. His bar bill for that final lunch time totaled 270 Maltese lira, almost £450. The public house in Malta in which he died, previously known as "The Pub", was renamed "Ollie's Last Pub" in his memory. Edited December 17, 2008 by Dorian Lasseter Truly, D. Lasseter Captain, The Lucy Propria Virtute Audax --- In Hoc Signo Vinces Ni Feidir An Dubh A Chur Ina Bhan Air "If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me." Deuteronomy 32:41 Envy and its evil twin - It crept in bed with slander - Idiots they gave advice - But Sloth it gave no answer - Anger kills the human soul - With butter tales of Lust - While Pavlov's Dogs keep chewin' - On the legs they never trust... The Seven Deadly Sins http://www.colonialnavy.org
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