Jib Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 I've had training with a blade and my father used to take me hunting. That being said I'm a poor shot with a gun. I am pretty good with the blade and at least fair with my bare fists.
Manglin' Maggi Maloney Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 though dad taught me marksmanship, and hip-shots.. makes more sense my first choice would be a gun. but i feel i must blood a pest wit' me cleaver before i shoot them, much as a cat might toy with the mouse before dining.
capnwilliam Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 I'm far more accurate with a sword. bloody pistols jam too! Flintlocks? On what, the feeding or the ejection cycle? Capt. William "The fight's not over while there's a shot in the locker!"
Patrick Hand Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 I still say..... blast thier head off (well go center mass... so thier chest...)....if the gun don't go off...... grab yer other one.... if that don't work...... hack 'em wit yer cutlass..... cool thing 'bout guns ..... ye can reach out and touch someone.... cool thing 'bout knives an' swords... is they don't missfire......
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Blades do not require re-loading, nor do they run out of ammo unless the weilder is dead. Pistols are nice, but I've been shot and continued fighting in the real world. When a body recieves a serious wound deep from a blade, it collapses quickly and naturally with few exceptions. Experience from my biker days in bar brawls. Bo
capnwilliam Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Shipmates, I'm not sure that I understand the historical context of this question. If we're talking "suppose this were the GAOP", and it's a choice between a flintlock firearm or a sword: then we have a great topic for a debate. There, my choice would be a sword, given the misfire rate and slow rate of fire power of a pistol or blunderbuss: if we're talking about a weapon for close range. However, my choice for an optimal period weapon would be a musket with a bayonet. I could fire ball, buckshot, buck and ball, or birdshot, and with the bayonet attached, I've got a spear and club (butt-end) combination that's better than any sword. Now, if we're talking TODAY: a sword is so far out of the running compared with modern repeating cartridge firearms, it's not even a serious point for discussion. A sword vs. a bolt action .308 with telescopic sights? Or vs. an assault rifle, or a 12 gauge pump with 00 or 000 buckshot, or a .357, or .45, or high capacity 9mm? I'm as much of an anachronist as you're ever going to meet: but a sword's way-down on my list of things I'd want to have in my hand, if my life were at stake. Capt. William "The fight's not over while there's a shot in the locker!"
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Ahoy Capn'william... I believe that this is about pre-modern firearms, after all this IS aPyrate forum. On that note, have you seen the cop shows where they dump a 15 round clip at 6 feet and never hit a thing? Just to clear my point, my reference to modern bar brawls was only to emphasize the effect of a bullet vs. a blade to the body. This of course is dependent entirely on shot placement. Humans haven't changed in that way over time. Don't forget also the Navy Seal who fought severely wounded for over a half hour to cover the escape of his teammates. How many times had he been shot before he finally fell? All modern firearms. Something for thought anyhow. Bo
Captain Pogue Posted August 13, 2007 Author Posted August 13, 2007 It was intended as more of a personl, historical, question. There seemed to be those at the pub that had either a tendancy for the gun or the sword. I was merely curious, as to who favored what... Conceptual Simplicity, Structural Complexity, Achieves a Greater State of humanity.
capnwilliam Posted August 13, 2007 Posted August 13, 2007 OK. From the way some mates were responding, I thought they might be answering in the present context. I still go with what I said earlier: I'd prefer a sword for "then" (talking personal defense / shipboard use, NOT battlefield use), a gun for "now". Even so: one of these days, I think it would be a wise investment to get a good cutlass, and a good Bowie. No wallhangers, but good "using" pieces, for last ditch home defense. You never know! I lived through Katrina: it makes you think, believe me. Capt. William "The fight's not over while there's a shot in the locker!"
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I cannot believe I left out the most important part of using a blade... noiseless! If a feller had to dispatch someone to make his escape or slip in un-noticed, the blade is far superior for obvious reasons.
Iron Bess Posted August 30, 2007 Posted August 30, 2007 I cannot believe I left out the most important part of using a blade... noiseless! Not to mention they are WAY easier to clean!! Well, you may not realize it but your looking at the remains of what was once a very handsome woman!
Capt. Bo of the WTF co. Posted August 30, 2007 Posted August 30, 2007 Not to mention they are WAY easier to clean!! YUP! AND... you can use THIER clothes to clean it
Iron Bess Posted August 30, 2007 Posted August 30, 2007 Not to mention they are WAY easier to clean!! YUP! AND... you can use THIER clothes to clean it As I have often done. Well, you may not realize it but your looking at the remains of what was once a very handsome woman!
1stMate Matt Posted August 30, 2007 Posted August 30, 2007 Even so: one of these days, I think it would be a wise investment to get a good cutlass, and a good Bowie. No wallhangers, but good "using" pieces, for last ditch home defense. You never know! I lived through Katrina: it makes you think, believe me. Capt. William I like this guy. If ever in need of "real" blades. look me up. frokm custom to semi custom I gotcha covered. -1st Mate of Pirates Magazine -Bladesmith/Owner of That Works Studio http://youtube.com/thatworks thatworks.shop
capnwilliam Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 I will do that, Matt. Capt. William "The fight's not over while there's a shot in the locker!"
casketchris Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 Queen Anne will see me through it and if not then the cutlass... Nautical acquisition and redistribution specialist
Matusalem Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 Sorry to jump off-topic but I saw this post and the first thing that came to mind was the quote from "The Untouchables" when the old cop played by Sean Connery says "Typical Italian.....bings a knife to a gunfight". But anyway, I like guns, of course, because cutlasses can't go 'bang'. as you were, gentlemen
casketchris Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 But anyway, I like guns, of course, because cutlasses can't go 'bang'. well they will if their cheap enough sorry i guess i wasnt that funny Nautical acquisition and redistribution specialist
Matusalem Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 well they will if their cheap enough sorry i guess i wasnt that funny I mean you no offence, mate. For I would only give the account that real GAOP pirates weren't always rich enough to afford a pistol, as even your average 1860's civil war soldier couldn't have enough money to procure a Colt revolver for himself as perhaps his comrades did. I'd only give the advice that it's probably best to stay within your budget. Nothig wrong with a cutlass. ...or even a $35 replica. My one and only advice is for you to decide what your theatrical objective is.
casketchris Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 no offence at all i was just saying that swords can break and make a "bang" noise thats it , there was no deep thought in my comment... Nautical acquisition and redistribution specialist
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