Red Cat Jenny Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 Um Joe...don't get all mad an sweaty, your beauty mark may fall off.. Just grab a wave dear..add some seaweed to the lace Hester just loves fashion! Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.... Her reputation was her livelihood. I'm a pirate, love. By nature and by choice! My inner voice sometimes has an accent! My wont? A delicious rip in time...
William Brand Posted July 2, 2007 Posted July 2, 2007 I smoke pipes myself, but have been thinking about purchasing snuff to flavour my pipe with, in the english fashion. Niiice.
Jack Roberts Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 So what about these gentlemen? They look rather in fashion to me, do they fall in the requirements of the Fop? Photo from Costumers Manifestio\
Jack Roberts Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 OOohh, even more! Look closer and you'll see the red heels. Yet one more from the Costumers Manifestio
LadyBarbossa Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Skipping historical aspects and hubbub... I'll throw in my 2 doubloons on this... that flat out, Gentlemen are sexier than ever! Fop? Naw... just a man with incredible manners and civility. Besides, looks like that... to a pirate, especially a Lady scoundrel (pirate or otherwise)... th' man has WEALTH! ~Lady B Tempt Fate! an' toss 't all t' Hell!" "I'm completely innocent of whatever crime I've committed." The one, the only,... the infamous!
Black Syren Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 AYE that is true, and I suppose once one gets past all the furbelows and geegaws that you can truly see the man within instead of the pretty package he presents. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dara286/trident01-11.png If you got a dream chase it, cause a dream won't chase you back...(Cody Johnson Till you Can't)
Reginald Killingsworth Posted July 6, 2007 Author Posted July 6, 2007 Amanjiria, Upon inspection, I must say that all are equal to the position of gentlemen. Though, the last one with the red heels may be in question - yet, fashion is just one point of being a Fop. Appearance was important yet, social habits, and behaviors among the elite/high social class also had great emphasis on what a Fop truly was. Dressing flash is one thing, but whom you interact with and where you went for entertainment is definitely another. Allow me to be frank at the commencement; You will not like me...™
Black Syren Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 First of all this is a dumb question but Im infinitely curious. Women were noted to dress as men and sail..So would a woman have dressed as a fop in secret? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/Dara286/trident01-11.png If you got a dream chase it, cause a dream won't chase you back...(Cody Johnson Till you Can't)
Capt. Sterling Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 So what about these gentlemen? They look rather in fashion to me, do they fall in the requirements of the Fop? Photo from Costumers Manifestio\ No actually they are just proper gentlemen from the time period... I believe one is supposed to the Duc du Maine circa 1708. Nothing about him being a fop. be "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/
Patrick Hand Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Yah... that's just how gentlemen dressed.... fops were even more extreame....... A fun side note:.... look at the differences in details in the second picture Capt. Sterling posted and the first picture..... when you start looking in "costume" books.... the differences start to get even worse....... a drawing of a drawing of a painting..... kinda like the game telephone........
Capt. Sterling Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Patrick is absolutely correct... again, like any type of evidence, first hand is always the best, everything coming after also becomes interpretation... yes we do need to do that sometimes, but if you can find originals... so much the better.... I also agree with Patrick on the fact that hey that is the way gentlemen dressed... different mindset back then... tough guys did wear velvet, lace and embroidery... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/
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