smoolie671 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 I'm trying to find out if the "POLACRE rig" is something that would have been used to any great extent in the GAOP time frame. Basicly it was a ship that looked like a standard "ship rigged" vessel, but upon closer inspection it didn't have masts that were stepped. Instead the masts were one long unbroken section top to bottom. Additionaly, the standing rigging was arranged in such a way to allow the yards/squares to lay closer to the center line of the vessel. In this way it was said to be able to point closer to the wind. I would think that this ability would have caught the attention of a pirate crew looking to have an advantage over your prey and or long arm of the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateKing Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Ahoy Smoolie, Are you by chance thinking of a Polacre rigged Xebec? The foremasts of a Xebec are typically raked forward, while the main and mizzen were either straight or raked slightly back. The massive lateen yards were so large that they were frequently composed of two spars lashed together -- more like masts than typical yards. Most xebecs did not have a bowsprit, but their beakheads frequently featured a long prow. A few of the western nations tried square sails on the xebec's mainmast and sometimes even the mizzenmast. The square-rigged mainmast would have topsails and even topgallants, and the mizzen would have a square topsail (while still maintaining the lateen lower-sail). A xebec rigged this way was known as a Polacre-Xebec. Commonly, though, the standard lateen rig for xebecs had a single triangular sail on each mast, and had none of a square rig's topsails or topgallants. The lateen rig offered many advantages over the square rig, the most significant of which was the ability to pinch far closer to the wind than square sails could. This meant they could both quickly catch up to and quickly flee from square-rigged vessels when sailing close to the wind. Check here and you may be able to find the ship type you are looking for: http://www.thepirateking.com/ships/ship_types.htm Hope this Helps! The Pirate King www.ThePirateKing.com http://www.ThePirateKing.com Over 180 online biographies of Pirates, Privateers, Explorers, & Buccaneers, along with loads of historical information on Sailing, Shipwrecks & Nautical Archaeology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoolie671 Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 The Xebec is not quite what I'm looking for. I have even seen square rigged Xebec ships, but what I'm looking for is different. I have seen a handfull of pictures of what looked like regular "ship rigged" vessels but when you look closer they are the polacre rig, and the descriptions also attest to that fact. I seem to have read something about the French using them alot. I wasn't able to get the dates that they were used though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Dreadlocke Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Weatherlysquareriggers.com gives a date of 1751 for 4 French vessels of the Xebec/Poleacre type. Has a couple of line drawings and pics of working models. PIRATES! Because ye can't do epic shyte wi' normal people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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