Tartan Jack

I am not surprised in the LEAST! -Different weapons, different tactics, different terrain, different intent, different in many, many ways. I SWEAR, the force those together to make them somewhat compatible. EX: William Wallace's tactics and weapons were aimed at heavily armed English cavalry, infantry, and long-bow archers. The Zulus were nothing of the kind. Both would use different weapons and tactics fighting one another than who the actually DID fight. They both were excellent at maximizing what they had against who they had to fight. There is NO WAY to accurately compare them without being overly compromised. The same with Knights/Pirates, IRA/Taliban, and the like . . . I agree with whoever said: It is a bar-discussion/debate/argument taken WAY to far!

Pants

How easily would it be to alter these into period-accurate style? (Worth $12?) From talking to a couple folks, I will need a narrower, taller waist band and to make the legs rectangular in profile. Anyone make a pair based on this pattern? Pros? Cons?

Thanks for doing that. It will make it easier. Make sure Hand's thread on making slops gets a sticky. A lot of people keep mentioning it to me when we discuss making slops. So, it is a good one on an important/common topic. It can be hard to find.

This one works very well.

I like it. One reason is that it uses known design elements used on period Jolly Rogers, is in a possible period style, and has a nice balance and simplicity to it. On part of flag design is they absolutely need to be simple to be recognizable. In flags, simple is better. The black/white contrast is nice and not to cluttered. The only suggestion MIGHT be even simpler wings and more space between the skull and wings, resulting in a simpler design easier to construct from white panels and more clearly distinguishable from a distance. As it is, it works too To make it, I'd make the skull and wings as a single piece of material and paint all the black on them for definition. Either way, that is FAR more period than most ever bother. Another idea for the skull (ala Mission): Use the style in the illustrations within Johnson's book. It is also period too.

Could be . . . Some tools have been around for a LONG time and used for all sorts of things. Some developed to look radically different. Others stayed about the same. I just found it and was curious is something similar was used in the GAoP on ship or not. The style certainly isn't modern. But, also one doesn't want to show up with something WAY out of date, either. I figure it would be useful as a camp instrument during reenactments. If unlike anything shipboard, I'd not be out anything and would just leave it at home or bury it in my stuff during the event. Anyways, mine needs a new handle and if it WAS the same as a period tool, I'd go through the trouble of getting a period-appropriate handle. If not, I'd just get whatever the local hardware store had that fit. It could be a rigging ax, pole axe, camping hatchet, and roofing hammer all at the same time. I found it interesting that something similar has been used a number of places for a long time. Practical design lasts and lasts.

Wouldn't it be let off for shore camp duty? As a camp hatchet? At least it is cool I got to use a found item!

Cool. So, I can just add a new pole and bring it as part of my kit. It would be quite practical. For those that actually, in real-life, work in ships rigging, is that something that would be expected to be used on-board?

Apparently so . . .

I looked up it in those 2 "classic" Rev War books on kit ("Swords and Blades" and "Collectors Illustrated Encyclo") . . . There is a hatchet in both that is very close. It also looks like the tomahawks, but as a hammer instead of a smoker. Some on-line references show something similar as a "Riggers Ax" . . . Does such exist for rigging? (Or, am I making too much out of this?)

Actually, it looks a HECK of a lot like: Or:

I have a tool laying around that needs a new handle. It is a hatchet on one side and a hammer on the other. (Edit: See post below for much closer pict) Is there a proper name for it? I was digging around stuff in my shed and found it with a rotten wooden handle. I think it came with the house. I don't recall buying it.

Mine was Wages, but I got it changed to Tartan Jack. After I joined here and then joined Pirate Brethren as well, I was nicknamed "Tartan Jack" by foxe. That has become my on-line ID. So, I got it changed to that on here now. It changed it at the top of my name. All the other references to me as Wages within posts are still here too. I am fine with that, though.

That was te recent movie "King Arthur" with Clive Owen as Arthur. I thought that was a STUPID thing to do in that flim. They were Picts. Call them that. Oh, and Woad is what the face paint in Braveheart was supposed to imitate. Though, they didn't use it anymore, just a half millennium out of date . . . and some bizarre belted plaids 300 years too early . . . Now, back to topic . . .

I want some instructions! -Anyway you can post them up, with pictures?

Cool! Thanks!

Welcome! -So, would you want your name to be changed on here from Vintagesailor to Commodore Swab?

That leads to another point . . . Did Morgan ever consider himself anything other than a privateer? (But, that may be a question for a whole other thread.)

I was going to suggest that you look into the Lady Washington . . . http://www.ladywashington.org/ But, it is 2 hours from Seattle. I hadn't realized that it was so far inland. I thought it was on a bay of the Pacific, not sure why . . . I'm wrong. I'd still check it out and see about volunteering with them.

Eric, There is also this kind too: http://mb045.k12.sd.us/Ideas/cannon1/mi_article.htm

Make the underside more black (black tallow) and pretty close. Keep the Jolly Roger, just add a blue/white Scottish flag on top too. -I am making my street vehicle (an 09 Scion xB) into a pirate sloop-theme. That will help sell/explain what I am doing better. THANKS!

There are a number of books on rigging that explain what is what and why. Here are a few from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Rigging-Period-Fore-...d=1YNN0STKEXORK http://www.amazon.com/Art-Rigging-George-B.../ref=pd_sim_b_2 Also, the GAoP was the tailend of this period: http://www.amazon.com/Rigging-Ships-Sprits.../ref=pd_sim_b_5 There are more than that. Oh, and your sloop pict is now my screensaver. Anyway you can make me a gray hull, black underside, and red trim on the wales? (What about a Scottish St. Andrew's flag -blue with white X-on the topsail?)

Damn the machines, Full hand stitch ahead!

Now . . . I want to head to the local Hospice store and see what's there . . .