Tartan Jack

I WANT!!! Damn economy . . . I want my old (much better paying) job back.

Over the counter, there are several legal versions. "Midnight Moon" is a high-end one, while "Georgia Moon" is a corny-flavored "hard-bite-back" one. Both are pretty "authentic" for different style moonshine. There is also several Virginia-distilled one, mainly from one distillery (forget the name).

I was tuning in to watch yet another "the real history behind pirates of the Caribbean" show, this time on the Smithsonian channel. This one is called: "The Real Story: Pirates of the Caribbean." Well, . . . This one was different. They interview Angus Konstam, the English weapons expert that is on so many of the better British-made history shows, and some bloke sitting in the great cabin of some boat- named E T Fox. I wasn't expecting much, as most of these kinda shows are pretty basic and sometimes not particularly well shot or edited. So, I was pleasantly surprised to see our own Ed Foxe there. (I pointed out to my wife "Hey, THAT is the Ed Fox I've talked about all these years and am finally meeting in-person next weekend." She said "he's younger than I expected. Better looking too." Not sure what to think of that last part . . . ) The show itself is hands-down one of the BEST one of this type I've seen. The interviews were decently edited together (I'm sure the interviewees know of great stuff that was left out) and not too chopped-up in comparison to other ones I've seen. Visually, the show edits new-shot stuff with scenes from previous shows (like the one on the Essex chasing the slaver in the early 1800s) and even National Geographic's "Blackbeard: Terror at Sea" film. It all was edited together fairly seamlessly, esp. for a show of this type. They also interview one of the PotC writers (who actually knows the history too). There is also footage from the PotC film series, which relates to the overall theme of the show. Content-wise, it is an excellent primer and focuses primarily on Blackbeard, while being on 17-teens pirates in general. The show is aimed at giving the historical background that the PotC films are based in and telling the true reality behind it. While some parts I find to be a stretched connection, they handle them well. The only real complaints is how they edited the part around Fox when discussing Jolly Roger flags, implying he supports how they framed the shows description of them when he would nauance it FAR more. Basically they show a bunch of flags (the "classic" set) that Fox debunks on: http://www.bonaventure.org.uk/ed/flags.htm and intercut Fox talking about how they used recognized symbols of death and how they were used. That struck me a bit (basically because I know Fox and have discussed flags with him many, many times with him over the last half-decade or so. This article discusses the point of the show: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/smallscreen/news/article_1635274.php/Smithsonian-s-The-Real-Story-brings-untold-tales-from-blockbuster-films-May-15 Still, a decently done show and a good bridge between PotC and the actual activities of the 17-teens pirates. I wish I could see the un-edited interviews . . . that would have been better. I know that the Smithsonian Channel isn't a very widely known channel, so here is the on-line video of the show: http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/site/sn/video/player/latest-videos/related/the-real-story-pirates-of-the-caribbean-full-episode/900357858001/ Edit: Oh, and the actually ship they are on when discussing weapons and techniques (the black one) is Foxe's workplace, the Brixton "Golden Hind"

Yep. How's things?

So, . . . THAT is what happened to Henry Avery/Every! I guess Foxe needs to rework the end of his book on the guy. (Hehehehehehehe) And more to topic, Doctor Who has a weird hit-and-miss relation to actual history. Some is very, very good, while some is a sci-fi spin (understand in the nature of the show), while other is just inexplicably odd and strangely and needlessly bizarre (at least to someone who knows the actual history). Often all three happen in the same episode. The first 2 I have zero issue with, as that is the nature of the show. The last one perplexes and irks me. Always will. I DO like the openendedness of this episode's end. You don't know if they go and continue to do piracy or something else. It is left up to the mind of the audience.

Back to topic. I didn't realize there were issues w/ cross-state transportation of chickens. Learned something. Anyone have any documentary evidence of coups? I was also wondering when reading this thread if it would be one-hen-per or of they would have a group in a coup.

Sorry. Mea Culpa. This is twill.

Correction . . Robot Chicken.

Which one in that video is Foxe? I'm sure he's in there somewhere. Plus, they are using both "his" boats (one is actually his and one is under his care) . . . Anyone else we know in there too?

For those who don't know, this is one of the BEST events out there for accurate-pirates. I'm 450 miles/9 hours away and it's worth the drive and more.

I thought Easter Rising, but for some reason thunk it was after 1918 . . . Nope: http://www.easter1916.net/ (That has been the subject of numerous songs and a notable film or 2) I forgot it was in the midst of WWI fighting.

Dude. I can't see how there is a way 1916 could have reminded you of all that without help from Wiki unless you majored in early 20th c. history. While we're speaking of WWI cartoon dogs in aviator goggles and biplanes, let's not forget Muttley. I remembered most of it, then checked the dates on the rest (w/ Google) to be sure, mainly the time-zone change, elephant, and park service. I knew the shark attacks, pretty sure on Pancho Villa (knew was 1915 or 1916-before the Lusitania and US entering WWI), Cubs/Wrigley (after the Federal League folded in 1915 and BEFORE the 1917 Star-Spangled White Sox uniforms) Sykes-Picot (but had to look up the correct name), and Rasputin (1 year before the 1917 Russian Revolution and one of the timing sparks). All those were before the US got into WWI in 1917. The Berlin Olympic thing was actually an issue/reason/matter in them getting the 1936 Games, famous for Hitler's propaganda on the "new, enlightened Nazi Germany. I find the 1936 Berlin games particularly interesting and have a couple books on them. And, yes, I majored in History and had a professor who focused on Civil War-WW2 history, mostly early 20th C. Plus, I am a HUGE Baseball park fan, among many other things . . . Nerd-fight time . . . In a dogfight between Snoopy and Muttley, who has the edge? (Note the pun)

Speaking of WWI reenactment, there is some land out west (US) that would make a fabulous No-Man's Land. Some in North Georgia too.

WW1, primarily. Also, the famous Jersey shark attacks (that later inspired Jaws), the pursuit of Pancho Villa, The Cubs take over the park from the Chicago Whales and it gets renamed Wrigley Field, the Sykes-Picot agreement that shaped screwed up the middle east to this day, British adopt daylight savings (an invention of Benny Franklin), US National Park service is signed into law, Tennessee hung an elephant, some Russian nobles kill Rasputin (took a LOT of effort inc. poison, gunshots, and he finally drowned to die), and the Berlin olympics cancelled (caused a chip on the shoulder of German that affected the games 20 years latter in the same city) What are you thinking?

After all the discussion on here about Firefly/Serenity, I never bothered to actually watch it. LOVE IT!!!! Shoulda looked into it almost a decade ago. Now, I'm late to the party . . .

I'll be sure to bring a copy. As to topic: What about letting us in on your Jolly Roger info, Foxe? Or at least the ones of US who come? -The Southern Carolina Colonial, Tartan Jack

I AM going, some how, some way. (If anyone is willing to "help me out" w/ cheap sleeping room/floor, let me know-> I can afford the pay part above, but the present economy/job issue makes the hotel for just me too much. i'm pleading, I know-> but any it helps. I'll be there even if I sleep in my vehicle and shower at a truck stop . . .) I'll be calling tomorrow (Mon).

Now . . . About that book on Jolly Rogers . . .

Congrats! Bet it's a great read. Now . . . where to get a copy of the journal . . . Wonder if I can "borrow" it from my local college, long-term Being a pirate and all.

PM "Jolly Jack Tar" on here. He can help you w/ info on the Adventure. (Edit: he posted right above me . . . pays to READ the whole thread before posting. )

The one your probably thinking of is "The Pirate's House" http://www.thepirateshouse.com/ There are lots of rumors and stories about the place, but all post-dates the GAoP period. I've heard MANY argue it was period, but most of those don't even know what period the GAoP most famous pirate lived, or that most of the popularly famous activity was from a 5-8 year period in the later 17-teens. Meanwhile, Oglethrope didn't establish Savannah until the 1733. The present establishment claims to have been around since 1753 as a seaside inn, tavern, and eating establishment (all of which were oft interrelated for most of history-> "taverns" had rooms upstairs and served food as well as drink. Last I checked . . . 1753 is well after 1722 (death of Bart Roberts) . . . They tell you that the Pirate House is the oldest building in Savannah and haunted by numerous pirates including Captain Flint from Treasure Island. Actually, the oldest part of the place was a brick gardener's shed and Savannah was founded well after the GAoP. It is a nice place to eat but expensive. Yep.

The one your probably thinking of is "The Pirate's House" http://www.thepirateshouse.com/ There are lots of rumors and stories about the place, but all post-dates the GAoP period. I've heard MANY argue it was period, but most of those don't even know what period the GAoP most famous pirate lived, or that most of the popularly famous activity was from a 5-8 year period in the later 17-teens. Meanwhile, Oglethrope didn't establish Savannah until the 1733. The present establishment claims to have been around since 1753 as a seaside inn, tavern, and eating establishment (all of which were oft interrelated for most of history-> "taverns" had rooms upstairs and served food as well as drink. Last I checked . . . 1753 is well after 1722 (death of Bart Roberts) . . .

Now this has been revived . . . I'm more likely to think that they would rather PARODY a work song and laugh than take it seriously. Oh, and thanks for the book link. I vaguely remembered it, but not the title. Now I can get it.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Not in Captain Twill, but based on the claims of the seller accuracy is a relevant issue. They claim it is based on a sketch of Captain Morgan's purpose-built FLAGSHIP (see quoted section above) from 1669 and a participant in the Panama invasion/attack. Plus, that said ship was ACTUALLY NAMED "Black Pearl." Is that claim accurate? On that accuracy I hang trust in the seller as to the ship itself. If accurate, they honestly tried to recreate a real ship. If not, they are committing a fraud, intentionally malignant or not. They claim accuracy . . .