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That Irish music channel is great! I've watched a few of their vidz now, and enjoyed them all. But I'm not gonna lie, learning to read sheet music... was a HUGE positive step in my learning to play music. Yes, one can play music without ever having to know how to read sheet usic (playing by ear or by tablature etc.).... But as someone who dabbled in music here and there since I was a teenager, starting to buckle down and dedicate to learning to read sheet music in my late 40s was huge in advancing my skills at playing music. Yeah reading music is not easy for everyone to learn, but it is worth the effort and time if you can work up the dedication to doing it.

Ditto what Miranda said, this is more about being a back-handed plea for redundancy in the various organizational responsibilities than a criticism on how they are done/handled. Having 2-4 people informed on the key accountabilitues will better help split or provide backup on the effort when things inevitably come up.

Thought I would start a topic for people to discuss, share thoughts, AAR (after-action-reports) or whatever other commentary regarding this event. But me first! First off, a huge hearty thank you to those who worked so hard to pull this event together. Between the Pub members organizing, and the Fort staff on the receiving end, this event was very well done. And that is because of this smalll collection of people's hard work. I loved that the event strives for good (if not great) authenticity, but is accommodating enough for a relative newcomer to the reenacting hobby to achieve. Out of all the events I have been to that has tried to thread that needle, this event achieves it the best. Organizational items: There are a few quibbles of things "I would do differently", but in all fairness, those are mostly stylistic leanings by the organizers, and not failings. The one piece I would suggest, is the kitchen/cooking. With no meals being "officially" on the agenda, there is no failings here, but because a couple of people tried to fill that "role" despite it not being official, I think a little better coordination surrounding the kitchen/food situation would behoove the event/organization. I know cooks like to organize "their kitchen" their way.... but no less than 4 or 5 people (based on current # of participants) should be at least somewhat in the know about the kitchen organization. I saw this as I was summarily "tasked" with policing the kitchen area one morning of modern stuff as the fort opened. I had no idea where anything was supposed to go. This lead to some serious discomfort by me, as I love being able to help, but was asked to help on something I wasn't able to. I asked a few people for some direction, and no one seemed to have the answers. Best guesses were made, and the situation did not play out badly, but it was awkward AF. Other than kitchen/cooking organization, this event was awesome. Great people, great historic interpretations and demos, and great fun. Some unexpected highlights for me. Trapball. It's a silly game, but it was made more fun by the friendly competitive nature of the game turning it into a team sport. Jessica's stroke of genius to add a "trophy" just made it all the better. The music. Damn, I wish I knew more songs in common with the other musicians present. That said, it appears "Star of the County Down" is almost the unoffocial theme song of the event. A list of 3-5 songs (official or unofficial) that musicians could strive to learn in "common" would be a great little addition. There is probably more I could drone on about, but I feel this post is getting long, and want to leave it here. P.S. Sorry I didn't get any photos. 😕

I can see my posterior loving this post.... Wait, that doesn't sound right. No, no noise should be emanating from my posterior.... Never mind. Cushions are good. Lob would also like to provide a hearty two poop-flings on this topic.

Okay, returning to this discussion.... Okay, I took some quick flips through my fav sources... and well.... I could find nothing that either supports my assertion of "high-collared" women's shifts, not could I find anything tht really disproves it. But those same sentiments could be applied to your "women in men's shirt as shifts". Now having let this simmer in the back of my mind for a few weeks, or occassional contemplation on the matter, and recallinng other period information, I am leaing more to agreeing with the notion of women wearing men's shirts. It would be uncommon. Not rare, but also not common. So not trying to place a "definitive number" on this, but trying to clear up my vibe, I would rate it as a thing that happened in the 20-30% range. As has been discussed in many threads in "Twill", the used clothing market at this time was a thriving industry, and just a common part of every day life. Also, having made both men's shirt (a lot), and more than my fair share of women's shifts, the construction of the two garment's is extremely similar. Yeah, the neckline is different, and in some case the cuffs, but the rest of the garment is made almost identically. Now factor, that a shirt looks almost the same as a shift on the cuff if bunched up and tied just below the elbow rather than the wrist. Also factor the "length" of a men's shirt and a female shift is VERY similar (even ignoring my wife being almost as tallas me) the shift is a shorter length undergarment (lower thigh, or just above the knee in length), which happens to be the length of men's shirts. And factor when poring over images of working class women, the necklines except when wearing a more gown style (open necked) shift, I couldn;t find hardly any images where the neckline of shifts were easily visible. Between the wearing of neckerchiefs (fichu?), or versions of partletts (female period equivalent of a dickie for those unfamiliar with the term), and hoods, cloaks, or other covering overgarments... I'm sure there are some images of necklines on female figures out there (beyond the few you've pointed out), but they are uncommon. So combining all the above, a woman buying a men's shirt to wear instead of a women's shift makes sense. Specially when factoring the used clithing market, the economy of doing so, the used clothing market, the similarities in construction etc. ect. ect. So in short, I might dissuade you from "dieing on that hill" , but I am coming around to disagreeing with the assertion a whole let less.

This brings great joy to my heart to see. Im glad it worked, and even happier you documented the steps and recipe!

My violin teacher got me on a period music streak. We just did "J'ai du Bon Tabac" a few weeks back (french folk piece, not sure if it's period, or just old enough to fall under "traditional). And we started to work through "Gathering Peascod" last night (which is definitely period to at least as early as mid-17th century). Edit: curiosity got the better of me, and while not "good" research, a quick internet search showed me "J'ai du Bon Tabac" to be 18th century, likely mid-to-late, but with possible provenance to as early as 1733.

"shruggy over pinny bit" = Partlet. While not exclusive to the Dutch or the era, they are extremely common in early to mid-17th century Dutch/Flemish women's working class outfits. In fact in the context I am most familiar with them for (early to mid-17th century Dutch/Flemish), women would often wear a black (wool) one over their bodice, or undergown, then a white linen one on top of the black one (I'm assuming the black was for warmth/comfort, and the linen one for ease of washing/drying) As for dieing on the hill of women in men's shirts. That ignores the two (broad) styles of women's shifts... the off the shoulder type commonly seen with gowns/formal-dresses, and the more working class shifts that were designed for more modesty, and fit over the shoulders and often had men's style collars on them. Thought I'd throw that out to poke the bear.

I don't know about the provenance of it's use, but the (now defunct) Columbus Santa Maaria reproduction had bagglewrinkle used in many parts.... So not exactly "evidence", but a generally well sourced historical reproduction of a 15th century ship used it.

Count me in! But to answer the question. None! To make my lame answer better, I have a few pirate themed RPGs ive collected over the years, like I have one that uses the "Savage Worlds" rules engine based on the "Pirates of the Spanish Main" collectable card/mini game. I have a Runequest source book for another. I have "Blood Tides" which uses BRP (same rules under the hood as Call of Cthulhu). And probably another one or two I'm forgetting. I collect more ganes than I actually play. 🤔 But don't get me started on pirate them miniature games... then I might have to write a thesis.

No need to apologize, it was an easy mistake to do... hell, I am surprised I didn't make the mistake as well... but then I recalled the Ohio River runs through like 6 or 7 states. But in doing a little further digging, the site is pretty remote... like 3ish hours from St.Louis, a similar distance from Louisville, and a lbit more than 2 hours from Nashville.... so remote, with multiple ingress points for those flying.

Not to be pedantic.... but this site is in Illinois, on the Ohio River. But that doesn't diminish the point it sounds like a possible fun event. A quick search, and there is a Cave-In-Rock State Park right next to the Cave,... and State Parks tend to be reasonably friendly to reenactors (well more so than the NPS).

I try not to get as hung up on specific mixology terms, as I am only an amatuer. I mean there is a couple of YooHooToob channels on mixology I follow, and I've picked up some of the terms, and try to use them when I can, but I am no where near pedant level in that skillset yet! But I agree with Jill, anything with Blueberries is devine

Dude, it sounds like a dream of a beverage... but also something when imbibe to excess has the effects of diminished memory. It also sounds like something that could be improved upon (method-wise, not taste). Im thinking of a concoction where the spices, sugar, and raisins are steeped in boiling water to make a syrup. That way you could carefully measure the amount of said flavourants, and more easily reproduce it in the future. Also, you'll burn through less rum finessing a syrup to recreate it than you would trying your previous method. You can likely taste just the syrup on its own for tweaks and adjustments.

Welcome to the madness. It was great meeting you last weekend

It's like necromancer, the dead are all rising again.

Welcome back! I recall your very thoughtful questions from the old days. Good to see you again.

I have these two blocks (they belong to wife from a time she dabbled in block printing fabric scarfs)... they've gone unused for a handful of years or more. I'd happily contribute these to the effort. I also distinctly recall there being 3 or 4 of them, but this is all i could find for now. If I recall, they were purchase at one of the big hobby store chains, but sadly I think the one that is currently going out of business.

I too would be very excited about a 2nd adventure of this type... Short story time. I have used mine a lot. Maybe not soo much that it faded or was heavily worn or frayed in the year and half since this came together. But I used it a fair bit. This past weekend, I traveled to California, with my traveling yard. I was attending one of those big all-day festival concerts. I wore my traveling yard as an accessory. And through the course of the day, it came loose, and was lost in the crowd. Likely while I was watching the Buzzcocks, but perhaps someone else. I was pretty dissapointed in myself when I noticed it's absence. I am guessing I didn;t knot it tightly enough... So yeah, please, let's do this again.

It brings me great joy to see the bale mark passed around and used in different manners.

Agreed, that is a lot of work.... but an AMAZING and horrendously convenient feature. Thank you!

That is an awesome resource.... We saw a bunch of originals of those types of stoneware drinking vessels in the Ryjksmuseum in Amsterdam. We snapped some pics of a few favs while there, and sent them to a friend, who happens to be a potter while in the museum. When we got home a few weeks later, there was a box containing a repro.