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At least for someone like me, and who is too a "weird" foreigner, it is less fun to lose this "privacy" behind anynomous forum account... But something to get used to I guess. (BTW Foxe: I have your document collection book now. It is great, of course. Really something that makes me feel hunger of information is fairly well satisfied)
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Hmm. It seems all fairly specific and concentrated on reenacting. Do you deal with related but slightly deeper historical points?
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Sad it has to be closed, but well, I can see why. I am no computer genius but: Why it cannot be left hanging around like regular pages? I mean no active accounts or registrations, just mere text and pictures. Archived version of the forum, not an interactive.
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Pirates were bloodthirsty criminals...
Swashbuckler 1700 replied to Jaykizh's topic in Captain Twill
Quite a few have actually taken that pirates were cruel "murderers". Especially of the buccaneers of 1600s which are often still grouped with the later ones of 1700s. These texts like to use the cruelties to make a romantic bloodthirsty image. Of the 1700s pirates less this exists, however, I have noticed. But yes generally there seems to be a lot of understanding towards pirates. If anyone studies history of anything really one will find out that pirates are not the worst villains that existed, not in their own period. As one book that I cannot recall said it something like this of the pirates of the early modern period, "But in the whole the pirates were not much crueller than the members of armies and navies or other such persons of the time. They were the children of their own age." My point in this is not the clearest possible, but anyway. -
Also the British ultimately issued their own privateers to attack the US rebels. Thus they indirectly admitted the rebels right to this kind of warfare. They did threaten to hang the captured rebels a few times tough. (I studied Revolutionary privateering for a uni paper, relatively low level one but still. Starkey's book mentioned above was one in the reference works.) Depending on the period for example this might be of use to you: Lydon, James G. Pirates, Privateers, and Profits. Upper Saddle River, NJ: The Gregg Press, Inc., 1970. It is about colonial New Yorker privateers of 1600-1760s
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Some art pieces from National Maritime Museum's web collection A Dutch Settlement in India Made in 1670s by Backhuysen, Ludolf Read more at http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/13411.html#saGUBkq6vI5QB43G.99 A Spanish Three-Decker at Anchor off Naples Made in 1669 by Willaerts, Abraham Read more at http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/13377.html#BMX2GkgzgmYQjO5D.99
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I would guess that no such maps exists. Anymore at least sadly. I would assume both make it seem too large a town. I think of the two AC is closer with its shanty town look. Nassau in Black sails is like more like a mix of colonial towns resembling even Havana and larger colonial capitals. Fore more info: https://csphistorical.com/2015/07/26/the-strongest-man-carries-the-day-life-in-new-providence-1716-1717/
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Thanks for sharing. Most interesting. Another example of not saving. Did not something similar happen to Henry Every's men in Britain?
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Print depicting Huguenot aggression against Catholics at sea. Horribles cruautés des Huguenots, 16th century. 1587
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In the 17th Century Europeans entered Japan and while this was only a brief moment before Japan turned more inwards it produced some pictures too related to this. Japanese (or at least East Asian) view of a Dutch ship made between 1600 and 1699 see https://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/objects/48746/Ship_Painting Miracle of St Frana board the ship Santa Cruz enroute to Macau and Japan, 17th-century, Spanish painting. (Photo by DeAgostini/Getty Images); Lisbon, Museu De Marinha (Navy Museum).cis Xavier See http://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/news-photo/miracle-of-st-francis-xavier-aboard-the-ship-santa-cruz-news-photo/148276181
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The importance of Netherlands in the 17th century is huge and be seen in the voluminous amount of artwork painted there. Here more Dutch paintings of ships and such. The Battle of the Downs, 21 October 1639 (Painted some time later) Features Dutch and Spanish ships fighting. Dutch attack on the Medway: the 'Royal Charles' carried into Dutch Waters, 12 June 1667 Beach and Van Ghent destroy six Barbary ships near Cape Spartel, Morocco, 17 August 1670
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I wondered this exact same matter some time ago here It has been written much about pirates like Blackbeard and others and not much of these other people. I actually think in historical sense Condent might have been more important than many pirates we know better.
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I think pirates and bad guys is a concept that, while in literature goes back of course to the General History of 1700s, is not so unfamiliar as often presented even in hollywood. The most famous pirate adventure Treasure Island that has many adaptations gives picture of cruel, dangerous, dishonest and alcoholic men for example. But certainly it is pretty unique in this scale so Black Sails offers something new. THe continuum with Treasure Island is interesting in this way too.
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18th-century painting of Dirk Valkenburg showing plantation slaves during a Ceremonial dance. He lived during gaop and visited Surinam so the picture should be accurate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Valkenburg
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Their website (Which we should not take too seriously) this was said and to me it hints of some kind of consensus, even while it doesn't directly say that all in the project actually agree. Indeed it seems that only one of the two sources say she was run aground in purpose, while the other says nothing about this. Soon after leaving Charleston, Blackbeard's fleet attempted to enter Old Topsail Inlet in North Carolina, now known as Beaufort Inlet. During that attempt, Queen Anne's Revenge and the sloop Adventure grounded on the ocean bar and were abandoned. Research by David Moore, and others, has uncovered two eyewitness accounts that shed light on where the two pirate vessels were lost. According to a deposition given by David Herriot, the former captain of Adventure, "the said Thatch's ship Queen Anne's Revenge run a-ground off of the Bar of Topsail-Inlet." Herriot further states that Adventure "run a-ground likewise about Gun-shot from the said Thatch". (Indeed correct and good points Mission. One cannot know all well enough. Anyway my point was that often, not speaking of any of the people here, people looking into maritime history focus only in technical things and details or individual happenings with sometimes poor background research. At least this is my impression after looking countless of studies e.g. about American Revolutionary naval war recently for a project (but this is partly caused by the fact some of the research is old). But, yes it is a valid genre when thinking it again, but I think it is still more a regional than thematic approach and thus pretty vague alone. Anyway.)