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Ooh, good one. Why didn't I think of that, he asked with a Cheshire grin.

Ahoy!

There areN'T ANY birthdays today (as of this posting), so I thought I'd wish no one a happy birthday. Many returns of the day. Happy natal care...er, day. Happy beerthday! Have a great one. HB2U. All the best! Enjoy your birthday. Etc.

Nah, I love my current quote. It's a favored fictional hero, INTJness and piracy combined.

I've read that the pirates kept the spoils in common chests and divided it when they made landfall or broke up their crew or in similar circumstance. (Except Blackbeard. He marooned half his crew so he could make the common chests a little less common.) As for where they kept it, probably in their pockets, possibly in a coin purse, somewhere handy, possibly protected. (If I wear a coat over a waistcoat, I find the waistcoat pockets are somewhat protected. It's where I carry my coins.) You've worn period garb; where would you put it? Or do you mean saved funds? I don't have the impression that most pirates saved much money. (We thoroughly thrashed that dead horse in pirates the savers? Even the nearly impossible to convince to change his opinion Swashbuckler 1700 gave up on it. At least as of this posting, he had. )

We had a discussion on bartering a while back and I can't seem to find it. I know because I brought up the comments in Woodes Roger's book about the men trading all their clothing in a warm port for fruit and such and they wound up making those men clothing out of sail cloth when they got near the Horn. There were also some comments by Edward Barlow about how the Bo'sum (I think it was the Bo'sun) sold clothes to men for a high price on the ship, totting it up against their wages before making landfall and the men turned around and sold the clothes on land for far less than they paid just to get enough ready cash to buy drinks in town.

Stynky asked me to write a tutorial for everything on the site once, but I have a day job and he doesn't pay me to do this so I ignored him. (You have to do this with graphics, which is a pain in the arse. Plus he keep upgrading the software so that the process changes ever so slightly, so *pfft!* to him.) I know I have written the tutorial for posting pic over and over again in posts, though. 1) Reply to a topic and the reply box appears labeled 'Reply to this topic'. 2) Open the image in a new window or tab. (By itself. Not the web page it's on, only the image. Based on the URL in your post, you had this correct.) 3) Copy the URL from the browser window with the image in it. 4) Go back to the tab or window with the reply to the topic in it. 4) Click on the little Polaroid above the edit window. It's the 11th thing right above the window and it contains a blue/green/orange blob in it. 5) A new box will appear with a blue banner on top that says 'Image Properties' and a box with your cursor in it which is labeled 'URL.' 6) Paste the URL you copied in step 3 into that. 7) Click 'OK' in the new box with the blue banner. That's all there is to it. If the box with the blue banner isn't appearing, you may have to allow pop-ups in your browser for this website or something like that. (Although I don't think this would qualify as a pop-up window. I'm not certain this is true for every browser, however.)

I fixed it for you. Jen you HAVE to use the little picture icon, you can't just post a link. It looks like a polaroid just above the editing window. It has blue/grene/orange in it. If you don't use that the forum just posts a hot link.

Actually, I don't know where I got the first rate thing from. I referred back to the quote I was thinking about in the last post. I do know there were things available to first rate ships that weren't available on other ships. (Physicians for example.)

Ooooooooohhhh. >_< I could swear I saw something about a bread oven on a 1st rate navy ship either here or in one of the books I was reading. I may be wrong, but it sounds very familiar... However, that would be a luxury not accorded a smaller vessel, so it would probably have nothing to do with the sort of vessels pirates had. Edit: Here is the post I was thinking of - it's my comment that makes me think that may have made bread, actually - where the author refers to efforts at baking. But it's quoted from William Raines Thrower's book which I don't trust very much. (I know he has some facts wrong in his book on pirates, so I take everything he says with a grain of salt. Which you could use to make bread with, of course.) Shipboard Cooking

Yes, but how would you ship her? (She looks vaguely Dutch or something.)

Jen, you appear to be trying to post an image that's located somewhere on your computer. Unfortunately you can't do that here. If the images are on the web somewhere, call each up in a new tab or browser window and copy the URL (This URL will start with 'http://' not 'file://', The URL should appear near the top of the browser in a white box. If it does not, look up your browser type using google and 'display url' or something similar and you will find instructions for doing that.) Then post the copied URL string using the photo button above the editing space. If your images are not on the web, load them into the gallery here at the Pub (or load them into a free image space if you have one set up) and then copy the URL as explained above.

I was just thinking what landlubbersanonymous said in a reverse sort of way - sticking the Patrick Hand Original™ in the overhead compartment gives it character. (And gives me worry lines when someone approaches my seat with one of those amazon wheeled monstrosities that can't possibly fit up there - which gives me character.)

Is this the other topic you were looking for? Galleys in the Golden Age I would think that would be to protect the ship as much as possible. Once a flame jumps out of those little tin deals, you might quickly find yourself in serious trouble while sitting in the middle of the wooden world. This is why even the pirates had rules about lighted candles, pipes and so forth below decks. As an OT aside, look at that nifty little box of bottles on the Mayflower. The Mayflower

Then I couldn't worry over it during plane trips. (Or get comments from the hoi polloi during said plane trips.)

The 17th Century (built 1628) Swedish Warship Vasa has a brick galley as well. This is a photo of the model of the ship from the Vasa Museum in Stockholm. Photo from Wikimedia galley, taken by Peter Isotalo

Imagine the hat box for the Patrick Hand Original™ Planter's hat...

Ha ha ha! Gunnister man hated sewing button-holes too! "The high round neck is faced inside but has no collar. It buttons to below the waist with twenty buttons, slightly more than 1 in. apart. Below these are another four buttons, the corresponding "holes" being stitched at the ends, but uncut." (Audrey S. Henshall & Stuart Maxwell, "Clothing and Other Articles from a Late 17th-Century Grave at Gunnister, Shetland.", PROCEEDINGS OF THE SOCIETY, 1951-52, p. 32)

What an interesting document! Thank you for finding it and posting it.

You don't have to put them in the appropriate threads. I was just remembering that you started a thread on swearing and I believe you have started more than one thread on fancy clothing - getting down to a granular level like hats and coats and whatnot. My suggestion is that you put those comments (and the links if you like, although it would be nicer to have searchable text) in the threads you started so others can benefit from your discoveries on a topic. Throwing them all in one giant topic like one this make them less useful than putting them in specific threads about the topic. It's your choice, of course, but since you've gone to all the trouble to find them...

No, it probably wasn't. http://tinyurl.com/aqdz43h There were a series of very badly researched attributions to Defoe, especially by J.R.R. Moore whose primary goal seems to have been to make a name for himself by massively expanding and the co-opting the American public library system to accept his various attributions to Defoe in the 1930s. Although the first person to attribute the work to Defoe was the unpublished work of Henry Hutchins, even he admits he's not sure as you see via that link. Moore's attributions (which included The General History of the Pyrates) are not to be trusted. You should post the quotes in the relevant posts you're talking about. Remember not everyone here has read all your posts and they don't know why those things are notable.

Where did they find the Gunnister Man's purse? The one you guys had at FTPI looked like something you would hang from a belt.

If you're asking in a period correct sense, my impression is that they didn't put a lot of stuff on their belt. In fact, my garb (and most PC garb that I've seen) has a waistcoat covering the belt, even if it's a short sailor's waist coat. So hanging stuff from it would be underneath clothing and awfully inconvenient to get at. (This may be a plus when dealing with thieves, of course. But it would make it that much harder for you to get to as well.) If you're not asking in a PC sense, I don't know because my belt is always under my waistcoat. :) The real answer to the PC question is scattered all over the place. However, some topics that may be of interest to you if you want to research it: What they carried? Hanging Tankard without offense? Sword Carriages Cartridge Boxes? Belts! (Not as useful as it sounds, other than for proving there were thin belts in use at the time.)

OK, new question, just where did they tie these purses off at? They would almost certainly be tucked into clothing somewhere.

Yet, if you go back and look at the stuff that's been posted here, a lot of the men shown close up have that same attitude and appearance. It has to have been at least partly due to the artistic style of the time.