Pirate Petee Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Pictures don't do Patrick's buccaneer kit justice, it's excellent. Ya really got see it first hand "no pun intended" ta see the amount of detail and authenticity. :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kass Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Where are the pictures? I can't find the pictures! I wanna see!!!! :angry: Seriously... Building an Empire... one prickety stitch at a time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hand Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 I've done a little work on the Buccaneer Project, so I will have to take some photos of some of my new stuff, and then link them so you can see them. Unfortunately, I didn't get any photos last week, when I took my girlfriend to a Rendezvous (her in sailor garb, me in my buccaneer stuff) Dyed the jacket a greenish brown, looks much better than the coffee and tea staining that it originaly had.... like I typed.... photos coming soon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hand Posted October 23, 2005 Author Share Posted October 23, 2005 I gust took some photos of my Buccaneer gear..... http://photobucket.com/albums/b97/PatrickH...urrent=gear.jpg The first photo shows all my camping stuff... to the left is a light weight tarp, rope, and tent steaks (I'm going to fire blue the tent steaks next time I have a fire going...) At the top is a straight razor, a waterproof soap bag with a bar of Casteal soap on top of a cloth towel. the 2 checkerd bags are for holding everything and my food (not shown) On top of the waterproof snapsack is a coconut bowl, tin boiler (I want to get something better than my Civil War tin cup... but it will have to do for now) my pipe and tobacco pouch, and a horn spoon. (I also will carry a silver plate that I put away somewhere.............(I like the part in Diemphers book where the Doctor is drying his powder on a silver plate....)) Below that is a small pouch with pebles for the games painted on my waterproof ground cloth, my flint and steal, a sewing kit (a wood tube holding sewing needles, wraped with thread ) and some leather thongs and cord . Below the snapsack is the machetti (I havent finished the handle yet...) I figure that a machetti would be more usefull than a hanger or small sword, I'm not sure if it is period, but I can chop wood, clear brush or Kill Spanards with one tool....... The next picture shows my flint and steal. I carry everything in a small tin,(there is a hole punched in the lid of the tin, so I can make more char cloth...) The tineder tube is cotton batting covered with linen cloth. It holds a spark much longer than just char cloth. when not in use, the chared end is pulled back inside the brass tube to protect it. I'm not sure if it is period, but it is realy usefull for lighting my pipe or starting a fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkyns Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Looks real good to me. I think I have two minor comments. Is the razor neccesary? Documentation refers to the buccaneers as dirty and unkempt so the razor looks a bit out of place to my thinking. Second, and this is minor, when I went through this process for ECW, the tin cup came up as an icorrect item. Brass or copper seems to be the preferred material, generally as a small kettle rather than cup. But I think it's great. How much time have you logged in the bush with this kit? Cannon add dignity to what otherwise would be merely an ugly brawl I do what I do for my own reasons. I do not require anyone to follow me. I do not require society's approval for my actions or beliefs. if I am to be judged, let me be judged in the pure light of history, not the harsh glare of modern trends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hand Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 Hawkyns.... When I did a search for copper boilers.... they were about $60 to $80 .... so I will use the tin cup untill I can try to make one (using sort of the pattern in the Voygers sketchbook....) I might get rid of the razor.... but the picture of Buccaneers showed then clean shaven... so I'm still thinking about that one......... Unfortunately, other than setting up the tarp in my backyard, I haven't had the time to go trecking with any of my gear (worked a second job this Summer) and now that it's getting colder, I don't think I will have a chance..... (somehow a capote and mittens just dosen't seen right for a Buccaneer...) If you could, I'd be interested in seeing a picture of your wooden tent steaks. I haven't fire blued the metal ones yet... but am thinking of maybe trying some wooden ones also.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hand Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 OH yah.... I should have mentioned, that other than the flint and steal, everything is newly made, but I have done primitive camping before...... I just haven't had a chance to use the Buccaneer gear camping yet..... I am thinking about finding someplace down in the valley where it is warmer and going camping befor it gets to cold (the Buccaneer stuff was designed for warm weather.... not winter camping...... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jim Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Yo, Patrick, found this on the web: My occupational hazard bein' my occupation's just not around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jim Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Yo, Patrick, found this on the web: thought ye might like it iffen ye ahdn't seen it afore. Dang, a double tap. Look at the knife holder that he has. That's two i've seen like it, both attributed to the boucaniers. My occupational hazard bein' my occupation's just not around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hand Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 Captain Jim, I've seen something like that in (I think it was) "the Buffalo Hunters sketchbook". it carried two skinning knives, and a steel to sharpining them..... Interesting picture tho....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hand Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 I just found this great photo of my Buccaneer stuff, from the Kearney Park Renn. Faire last weekend....... http://www.renaissancefaire.us/2005-11-12-...rk/page0320.htm I'm wearing a different hat, and the tankard under the hunting jacket.... welll it WAS a Renn. Faire..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 You Know it's hard to belive but everytime you post a pic the gear gets better man. Good work THIS BE THE HITMAN WE GOIN QUIET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Brand Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Having camped with Patrick I have to say... ...damn fine kit, Mate. Aye. Damn fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsignor Fitzwell Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 That is the first time I have ever seen that drawing but I like it as how it discribes a Buccanner they were known to carry skinning and butchers knifes and tools for butchering cattle. plus long rifles, he has that, plus his garb is tattered, they were not known to be rich, and his clothes show that he spends a lot of time hunting on land, which they did. I have read they wore a lot of leather, as it was a side from their trade. Also early raids on spanish ships were done from long canoes, he looks like he is totally portable. Unfortunately history of the time was writen by those who survived, and the Bucanners life was hard and short, lus illastrators not having seen much but going by discription tended to draw in what they saw around them, not what actually was on the subjects they heard about. Remember that few illustrators were in the Carib at the time, most were in europe. Another point is that the Bucaneers, being used a large raiding armies, transported by ships, would also want compact ways to store what they owned, that is also seen in the picture. I am sure that by the time the Spanish had sacked Tortuga and the buccaneers had tranfered to Port Royal the garb was changing to a more marintine nature, but I beleive that pic, if you look at what he has on him and the nature o fit's design, looks to capture the Buccaneer as his namesake would have looked. but all that is my opinion Captain of the Ship Pax Decimus Currently raiding with the Voyage of Reprizal in Caribbean waters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hand Posted December 25, 2005 Author Share Posted December 25, 2005 plus long rifles Actuly it's NOT a rifle...... but a smoothbore....... Just nit-picking a bit...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsignor Fitzwell Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 LOL, well maybe I should have said Long gun anyway, it is a great plate, the person who drew it must have read a lot about bucanners, Most guys are totally influenced by hollywood Captain of the Ship Pax Decimus Currently raiding with the Voyage of Reprizal in Caribbean waters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hand Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 Monsignor Fitzwell.. you should look at some of the eairlier post ... there are some good pictures of Buccaneers from period sources that Foxe posted. LOL, well maybe I should have said Long gun Awh..... I was just being picky about that...... But it did get me wondering about early rifles..... But I think I will stick with getting a smoothbore...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMike Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 The drawing appears to be by artist Peter F. Copeland. Looks like it came from his "Pirates and Buccaneers" coloring book. Anyone who is familiar with The Company of Military Historians knows Copeland's excellent research. Yours, &c. Mike Try these for starters- "A General History of the Pyrates" edited by Manuel Schonhorn, "Captured by Pirates" by John Richard Stephens, and "The Buccaneers of America" by Alexander Exquemelin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Hand Posted December 27, 2005 Author Share Posted December 27, 2005 Mad Mike... I'm going to have to find a copy of that coloring book.... Other some some very minor points in the drawing, it is very good..... OK... I know the reason he showed the plug bayonet in front.... just don't bend over too fast if you carry one there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jim Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 fI wondered if anyone was going to see that plug bayonet...and I will go and find out who drew that picture. My occupational hazard bein' my occupation's just not around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsignor Fitzwell Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 I saw the post that Foxe links to a nice plate this one is a bit more detailed a few things I like are the knife toolbox/scaboard the musket, shoes and leggings, cap, all apear to be period from discriptions I have read, I am supprised about the Bayonet one thing I take a minor issue to is the number and size of the buttons on the jerkin, I do not personally concieve a poor hunter/butcher to have a jerkin with so many labor intensive buttonholes in it, and do not see loops for the buttons, also 4 or 5 buttons would do about the same trick, it was not a cold enviroment. I used to have a book that had a few other plates in it that were so baddly concieved I thought maybe they were done for treasure Isle, but that is another story. Captain of the Ship Pax Decimus Currently raiding with the Voyage of Reprizal in Caribbean waters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Patrick, Have you read The Sea Rover's Practice yet? It has great insights to the whys and where fores of the Buccaneer age and goes a bit into the Golden Age, but mostly for contrast. It has some different takes on why and who took to buccaneering and what they brought to the table. Amazing stuff there and seamingly well researched with tons of references and resources. The thing has something like six appendices alone. As I take on the Captain Morgan character during that time, it is a fascinating read. Here's a review from Amazon... To read of sea roving's various incarnations—piracy, privateering, buccaneering, la flibuste, la course—is to bring forth romantic, and often violent, imagery. Indeed, much of this imagery has become a literary and cinematic cliché. And what an image it is! But its truth is by halves, and paradoxically it is the picaresque imagery of Pyle, Wyeth, Sabatini, and Hollywood that is often closer to the reality, while the historical details of arms, tactics, and language are often inaccurate or entirely anachronistic. Successful sea rovers were careful practitioners of a complex profession that sought wealth by stratagem and force of arms. Drawn from the European tradition, yet of various races and nationalities, they raided both ship and town throughout much of the world from roughly 1630 until 1730. Using a variety of innovative tactics and often armed with little more than musket and grenade, many of these self-described "soldiers and privateers" successfully assaulted fortifications, attacked shipping from small craft, crossed the mountains and jungles of Panama, and even circumnavigated the globe. Successful sea rovers were often supreme seamen, soldiers, and above all, tacticians. It can be argued that their influence on certain naval tactics is felt even today. "The Sea Rover's Practice" is the only book that describes in exceptional detail the tactics of sea rovers of the period—how they actually sought out and attacked vessels and towns. Accessible to both the general and the more scholarly reader, it will appeal not only to those with an interest in piracy and in maritime, naval, and military history, but also to mariners in general, tall-ship and ship-modeling enthusiasts, tacticians and military analysts, readers of historical fiction, writers, and the adventurer in all of us. It just came out at the end of August of this year. Amazon carries it. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/157488910...929444?n=283155 -- Hurricane -- Hurricane ______________________________________________________________________ http://piratesofthecoast.com/images/pyracy-logo1.jpg Captain of The Pyrates of the Coast Author of "Memoirs of a Buccaneer: 30 Year Before the Mast" (Published in Fall 2011) Scurrilous Rogue Stirrer of Pots Fomenter of Mutiny Bon Vivant & Roustabout Part-time Carnival Barker Certified Ex-Wife Collector Experienced Drinking Companion "I was screwed. I readied my confession and the sobbing pleas not to tell my wife. But as I turned, no one was in the bed. The room was empty. The naked girl was gone, like magic." "Memoirs of a Buccaneer: 30 Years Before the Mast" - Amazon.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Brand Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Thank you, Hurricane. I shall add that to my list of must read reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 This is what one reader said about it: For those who love historical texts, but sometimes have a hard time weeding thru the period language, overly technical jargon and miles of microfiche, this book is a real blessing. The author not only deals with the methods of tracking, chasing and boarding prey, but goes happily in-depth about the people who follow the "sweet trade". He covers the buccaneer lifestyle on land as well as at sea, the events leading up to their rise in influence in the Caribbean, and goes into clothing, food, religion, heirarchy, weapons, flags,choice of ships and cultural relationships. I picked up this book primarily to confirm or disprove my theories on individual weapons combat during boarding actions and while the techniques are not played up in any great detail,citing the use of powder and grenades over cutlass and knife, the reasonings behind what weapons were used and how unorthodox hand to hand combat could be in closed quarters are sound. Interesting to note that not all buccaneers were young and die early. One was 84 and had transitioned from buccaneering to piracy. -- Hurricane -- Hurricane ______________________________________________________________________ http://piratesofthecoast.com/images/pyracy-logo1.jpg Captain of The Pyrates of the Coast Author of "Memoirs of a Buccaneer: 30 Year Before the Mast" (Published in Fall 2011) Scurrilous Rogue Stirrer of Pots Fomenter of Mutiny Bon Vivant & Roustabout Part-time Carnival Barker Certified Ex-Wife Collector Experienced Drinking Companion "I was screwed. I readied my confession and the sobbing pleas not to tell my wife. But as I turned, no one was in the bed. The room was empty. The naked girl was gone, like magic." "Memoirs of a Buccaneer: 30 Years Before the Mast" - Amazon.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Brand Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 I plan to take the book's ISBN number to the library and have them order it. It is a very inexpensive way to read all the books you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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