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Matty Bottles

Hanging Sleeves in the Buccaneers of America

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So, I have been thinking about putting together a buccaneerings kit, and a spanish kit, and I've noticed some images in Buccaneers of America that show "hanging sleeves" - sleeves that are sort of option, I guess, attached at the top and back of the shoulder but with a wide enough space for you arms to completely miss them.

Does anyone have any info of surviving artifacts, or how long this style persisted in Spanish dress?

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Pictures are worth a thousand words. ;)

I have a vented waistcoat with holes at the arm-pits, but I don't think that's what you're talking about.

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Pictures are worth a thousand words. ;)

Hey, that's pretty good! That should be a saying or something! :P

From Buccaneers of America:

The_Buccaneers_of_America_19.jpg

Check out the guy being forced to eat the heart:

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And the guy with the powder apostles just about to be cut down:

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And not from BoA but here anyway is the somewhat controversial Spanish Captain of 1700:

Spanish-capitano-1700.jpg

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It's funny - in one of those photos the sleeves are tucked under a belt and look like a sash. I wonder if that's where Pyle et. al. got that notion from?

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I will try and post pics later, but my interpretation of this is basically a vented sleeve on my doublet style coat. Last year at Searle's raid (and maybe the year before as well) I did wear my slitted arm green doublet, and when I got too warm I put my arms through the vents to cool off and it looked similar to that.

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I'd have to go dig out Janet Arnold's stuff on later period doublets....but just off the top of my head, I think there were sleeves that buttoned (or un-buttoned) all the way up the sleeve...

Wearing them un-buttoned would make sense... it's much hotter in the Caribbean than in England....

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For some reason I thought that sort of sleeve died out by the ECW. Does anyone know how long it lasted in Spanish dress? The Spanish captain is the only example I can find that late.

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