Matty Bottles Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Wow, Hugh, they really liked 'em thick and wild back then, huh? "The time was when ships passing one another at sea backed their topsails and had a 'gam,' and on parting fired guns; but those good old days have gone. People have hardly time nowadays to speak even on the broad ocean, where news is news, and as for a salute of guns, they cannot afford the powder. There are no poetry-enshrined freighters on the sea now; it is a prosy life when we have no time to bid one another good morning." - Capt. Joshua Slocum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Oversized for men and winter, small and dainty in the spring and summer... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 ahhh- for men... that brought up my next question. does anyone have any clear pics of a man with one and what size it would be. I found a small grainypic on costumers manifesto, but it was a hurry search while gettin ready forwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Roberts Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 Men with muffs..... What would like to find evidence for is a "wool tube lined with fur". So the muff would be wool on the outside and lined with fur. That I have enough pelts to do. Lady Barbossa, I didn't stuff it with anything. I thought about it. Perhaps I should have. Although the fur itself is pretty warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 They all sort of look like dandies; flouncy feathers, holding handkerchiefs and...isn't that one guy taking a pinch of snuff? Mycroft: "My brother has the brain of a scientist or a philosopher, yet he elects to be a detective. What might we deduce about his heart?" John: "I don't know." Mycroft: "Neither do I. But initially he wanted to be a pirate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Souris Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Jack, I'll have to look around again because it's been a while since I've seen the fur lined ones. I do remember seeing something like that though. I have in one of my books a photo of a muff that is silk with embroidery, but it doesn't specify lining or anything. When we get our computer set up (still unpacking the moving mess), I will scan it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Ladies "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) Gentlemen and better than just a muff, a fur trimmed coat... Edited January 7, 2010 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madPete Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Jack, your warm furry muff project has made me think i should do something with the beaver I have locked up in the storage shed for the past few years ....before it dries up and is useless I may have a few foxes locked up there as well ....mmmm better a good muff than let them go to rot & ruin ROTDL :huh::huh: Aye... Plunder Awaits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Bottles Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 ahhh- for men... that brought up my next question. does anyone have any clear pics of a man with one and what size it would be. I found a small grainypic on costumers manifesto, but it was a hurry search while gettin ready forwork. If you want pictures of a man with a muff there are probably some websites that can accomodate you. "The time was when ships passing one another at sea backed their topsails and had a 'gam,' and on parting fired guns; but those good old days have gone. People have hardly time nowadays to speak even on the broad ocean, where news is news, and as for a salute of guns, they cannot afford the powder. There are no poetry-enshrined freighters on the sea now; it is a prosy life when we have no time to bid one another good morning." - Capt. Joshua Slocum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Dang guess we will never have a serious discussions about fontages, commodes and hairstyles... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascabel Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Some of the depictions don't appear to be people dressed for cold weather. Note the unbuttoned coats exposed flesh, no scarfs, etc. in some of the pictures. I wonder if sometimes the muffs were more of a fashion accessory, rather than intended for warmth. >>>> Cascabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) Oh most assuredly as they were carried, at least by women, all year long, not just in the cold months... somewhat like the masks that were carried as well... I have not yet discovered if there were pockets inside the muffs of the time, like those carried during the last century... no need for a separate pocketbook for the ladies with the interior pocket. Still looking for information on such. Edited January 7, 2010 by Capt. Sterling "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Roberts Posted January 7, 2010 Author Share Posted January 7, 2010 That would be nice now wouldn't it? Capt'n have you read on ways to carry them? I've read about muff chains, but could they have been worn with ribbons or tied around the waist? It looks like some of the men have something around the waist to hold them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 OH DAMN!!! "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Roberts Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 Damn why do I feel so..... inadequate..... Bloody Capt'n's...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyBrower Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Has anyone come across references to knit muffs? I found this in an inventory of transactions of the New York State Agricultural Society.... But it is for 1842. :-( It's waaaaay out of this period, but gives me some hope... lol Miss Olive Austin, Smyrna, Chenango county, 1 knit veil, 8 caps, 1 knit muff, 1 knit bonnet, 1 knit collar, 2 knit bands, 2 lace worked pockets, Diploma, and 3 00 http://www.archive.org/stream/transactionsofne05newy/transactionsofne05newy_djvu.txt Cook and Seamstress to the Half Moon Marauders Lady Brower's Treasures, Clothing and other treasures Hell Hath No Fury like the Wrath of a Woman... No that's it. She doesn't need a reason. www.myspace.com/halfmoonmarauders www.myspace.com/faerienoodle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Sterling Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Sorry Lady. Br. not yet, but will keep an eye out for such... and Jack... from what I am seeing, the men appear to have them attached at the waist with some sort of ribbon or slender sash... not seeing any chain yet... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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