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Bruckheimer Scales Down "Pirates 4"

By Garth Franklin Tuesday May 4th 2010 07:46AM 000503676957_article.jpg?1272977229 Those "Pirates of the Caribbean" are taking a pay cut it would seem for their next outing reports The Los Angeles Times.

Disney has apparently imposed a more constrained budget which "Bruckheimer is scrambling to meet" before filming begins on June 14th.

The first film cost $140 million, the subsequent sequels escalated to a whopping $225 million and $300 million respectively. The new fourth entry will be cut back but still hover at around the $200 million mark.

To achieve this the film's shoot is expect to run around three months instead of the nearly five months it took to film the last one, while visual effects shots will be cut from around 2,000 to 1,300. There'll also be more land-based filming.

Bruckheimer says this approach has caused him to "make painful decisions that cut into some very entertaining sequences."

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Well mates,

The Pirates crew is about ready to leave for locations.

Rob Marshall will be gone at the end of the week. (We need his office too so timing is everything!)

The WONDERFUL Stunt crew (who has been working out in the old Prop warehouse) is gathering gear as we speak. Going to miss them... terrific bunch! ;)

Will keep you up to date as we roll along if anyone is interested on news from the distant inside. ;)

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'Pirates' No Longer of the Caribbean

by Mike Ryan

Remember "Smokey and the Bandit"? Not to say the first two films of that series were examples of cinematic glory, but the dismal "Smokey and the Bandit 3" -- which had to cut its two leads as well as the director because of insufficient funding -- made it quite obvious what cuts in the budget can do to a film franchise.

Whether or not you recall the lesson imparted by this early '80s Burt Reynolds movie sequel, the news that "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides," had its budget cut by more than a third doesn't exactly bode well for what we're going to see next.

The good news: Captain Jack Sparrow, the breakout star of the film franchise played by Johnny Depp, is back. Also, Penelope Cruz has signed on to play a love interest for Sparrow. The not-so-good news: director Gore Verbinski and the overwhelming majority of the big-name cast is not returning -- including Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley.

Perhaps most devastating (at least from the perspective of a "Pirates" purist), is the news that the fourth installment of the franchise will not be shooting in the Caribbean (you know, like the title says) or Los Angeles. Those locations have been scrapped for the less expensive Hawaii and London. Perhaps the film should be renamed, "Pirates of the Thames: Maybe We Can Also Use the 'Lost' Set." And for the crew hoping to get a tropical suntan -- or perhaps acquire a Madonna-like accent -- they're out of luck: shooting has been cut down from 145 to a lean 90 days.

Like the "Pirate" predecessors, the fourth installment is being produced by Jerry Bruckheimer -- producer of films such as "Armageddon" and "Top Gun" -- someone who isn't necessarily used to budget cuts. The cuts stem from the new studio Chairman Rich Ross who has tightened the budgets considerably since taking over for former Chairman Dick Cook, who was fired from Disney in September of 2009.

"Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides" will be directed by Rob Marshall. Though Marshall won an Academy Award for "Chicago," he's not exactly known for being a director of action films. Other films to his credit include "Memoirs of a Geisha" and "Nine."

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I had actually applied for a part in POTC4,but I was told I was too late. Now that is too bad,it would have fun to have had a minor part there. Maybe in the 5th movie?

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Maybe in the 5th movie?

Bite you're tongue! ;)

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Actually, I'm kinda glad they are being forced to scale back the SFX. That's what I liked about the first movie, the SFX were at a minimum. More land-based filming works fine for me. I won't miss Orlando or Keira, but I will miss Pintel and Regetti, Cotton and his parrot, and Marty.

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Yeah, to be honest, I was much happier when it was less about the CGI and more about... oh, I dunno... the PIRATES. Just saying.

However, the more I hear, the less I expect Tim Powers' novel to have ANYTHING to do with this movie. So far I've read a few minor spoilers that have started floating around, and the ONLY element from the original On Stranger Tides that appears to have made the transition from page to screen is Blackbeard.

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As long as it is about pirates being pirates and actually well written and internally consistent, rather than an epic mess w/ HUGE plot wholes and incompatible dialogue . . . I'd be happy.

I just wish the various other rumored pirate films would actually get made and the genre could be actually revived as a real genre, rather than a single film series and a number of re-aired TV programs.

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'Pirates' No Longer of the Caribbean

by Mike Ryan

Remember "Smokey and the Bandit"? Not to say the first two films of that series were examples of cinematic glory, but the dismal "Smokey and the Bandit 3" -- which had to cut its two leads as well as the director because of insufficient funding -- made it quite obvious what cuts in the budget can do to a film franchise.

Whether or not you recall the lesson imparted by this early '80s Burt Reynolds movie sequel, the news that "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides," had its budget cut by more than a third doesn't exactly bode well for what we're going to see next.

The good news: Captain Jack Sparrow, the breakout star of the film franchise played by Johnny Depp, is back. Also, Penelope Cruz has signed on to play a love interest for Sparrow. The not-so-good news: director Gore Verbinski and the overwhelming majority of the big-name cast is not returning -- including Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley.

Perhaps most devastating (at least from the perspective of a "Pirates" purist), is the news that the fourth installment of the franchise will not be shooting in the Caribbean (you know, like the title says) or Los Angeles. Those locations have been scrapped for the less expensive Hawaii and London. Perhaps the film should be renamed, "Pirates of the Thames: Maybe We Can Also Use the 'Lost' Set." And for the crew hoping to get a tropical suntan -- or perhaps acquire a Madonna-like accent -- they're out of luck: shooting has been cut down from 145 to a lean 90 days.

Like the "Pirate" predecessors, the fourth installment is being produced by Jerry Bruckheimer -- producer of films such as "Armageddon" and "Top Gun" -- someone who isn't necessarily used to budget cuts. The cuts stem from the new studio Chairman Rich Ross who has tightened the budgets considerably since taking over for former Chairman Dick Cook, who was fired from Disney in September of 2009.

"Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides" will be directed by Rob Marshall. Though Marshall won an Academy Award for "Chicago," he's not exactly known for being a director of action films. Other films to his credit include "Memoirs of a Geisha" and "Nine."

A budget cut of "more than a third" means that they will only get to spend $200 million instead of $300+ million. PoTC3 was one of the most expensive movies ever made. This is still close to the budget of PoTC2 ($225 million).

It was made plain from the beginning that Bloom and Knightley would not be in it - their story is told. This writer comes across as a hack who realized that he can get picked up by predicting bad results.

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I agree with your assertion, MarkG. This person is also presenting rather old news like the public wouldn't know. Bloom and Knightly have been pretty open about not coming back from the very beginning.

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Rossio Shoots Down "Pirates" Budget Talk

By Garth Franklin Thursday May 6th 2010 07:41AM pirate_article.jpg?1273149885 "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides" co-writer Terry Rossio has shot down the recent L.A. Times article about the film's budget being cut back. Responding on his official message boards, Rossio says:

"My guess is the budget on P4 will be higher than P1, in the realm of P2, and lower than P3. (And the difference there has more to do with the difficulty of shooting two movies, deadlines, hurricanes, tank issues, multiple star salaries, and myriad other details.) Hard to even tell, as the budget on P4 contains various tax deferments, and the decision has still not been made to shoot in 3D. Actually, the budget on P4 isn't even set yet, so really, there is nothing to report.

The truth is, the studio and everyone involved fought just as hard to lower the budgets of P1, P2, and P3 as they are on P4. Nothing has changed. Are there budget meetings on P4 to look for ways to get the most for the money? Of course. Same as on every film. It's a complete non-story. But now the 'spin' is out there, sure to be repeated."

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Ahhhh.....

My work is done. :D

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Now if only as many people would see the Rossio article as have read all the other ones...

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I sent that article along to the gal who really takes care of the lads.

It was somehting I knew they would be interested in.

It would seem so!!

HA! :D

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Well done!

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Well now, I've been out of commish for a spell but I'm sure you all know that the crew is now in Hawaii and shooting has started.

The Gods help the locals. They have yet to forgive us for LOST. :P

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Here's a freightening thought:

Captain Jack is trying to find the Fountain of Youth (since he wants to be immortal)... What if he finds it, jumps in, and actually becomes younger? unsure.gif

Then, the role of Jack Sparrow might be taken over by.... ohmy.gif

YEP!!! wacko.gif

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One less issue that those involved with PotC4 won't have to deal with - an ever growing oil slick! Geez! Can't complain about them not wanting to be in the Caribbean for this one. Hmm... I'm curious how th' story will go though.

BOOTY TRAPS- I mean, Booby Traps! Don't forget th' Booby Traps! ;) Oh, come on! Just imagine Jack attempting ALL those same issues the Goonies went through to get to One-Eyed Willie's loot? Hehehehe. :) Fun image, isn't it? Especially Jack playing the Bones organ?

Can't wait. And hope all be having fun in Hawaii with the shoot.

~Lady B

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I can't wait for POTC4 to hit with a bang. I'm sitting on a boatload of collectibles from the other films and am looking to make a killing when I sell off my collection. ;)

I'm trying to save up for a trip to Key West.

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Yes, but at least they'd be all natural Booby booby-traps...no artificial filling at all. sorry, still thinkin' of them mermaids...

One less issue that those involved with PotC4 won't have to deal with - an ever growing oil slick! Geez! Can't complain about them not wanting to be in the Caribbean for this one. Hmm... I'm curious how th' story will go though.

BOOTY TRAPS- I mean, Booby Traps! Don't forget th' Booby Traps! :lol: Oh, come on! Just imagine Jack attempting ALL those same issues the Goonies went through to get to One-Eyed Willie's loot? Hehehehe. :) Fun image, isn't it? Especially Jack playing the Bones organ?

Can't wait. And hope all be having fun in Hawaii with the shoot.

~Lady B

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Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides

Aussie actress Gemma Ward ("The Black Balloon," "The Strangers") has joined the cast of the upcoming fourth 'Pirates' reports The Courier Mail.

Ward has been cast in a "small speaking part" which she will film in August. Shooting on the project kicks off this week.

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I hear that Megan Fox has been cast as an evil mermaid. Please tell me this is a lie.

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From all that I have heard, this is indeed a lie.

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‘Pirates of the Caribbean,’ ‘Cars’ sequel included in Disney, IMAX 3-D deal

‘Mars Needs Moms’ with Seth Green and Joan Cusack also on deck

By: Katie HastyWednesday, Jun 23, 2010Walt Disney Studios and IMAX have signed a three movie deal sending three titles to the big-big screen in 3-D next year. “Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides,” “Cars 2” and “Mars Needs Moms” are all included in the expanded partnership, with each to be re-mastered for the screens and sounds of IMAX theaters for 2011.

The “Pirates” sequel with Johnny Depp and Penelope Cruz is due out May 20; the second of the “Cars” Pixar films will drop June 25; and the animated, Seth Green- and Joan Cusack-voiced “Mars” will be released March 11.

The last “Pirates of the Caribbean” film, “At World’s End” from 2007, has a $309,420,379 domestic gross to date. The first “Cars” movie, out in 2006 with Owen Wilson and Paul Newman, did 244,082,964.

Disney’s most recent 3-D endeavor "Toy Story 3," played in IMAX at 180 of the 4,000 theaters in the United States. $8.4 million of the film's opening gross of $110 million.

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Want to be an extra?

http://www.sandealessicasting.com/open-calls.htm

I'd cut an paste the text for the above link but I am having issues with their site this morning. Anyways they are casting pirate extra this week and next go to the website to get the info.

Hey, I got the cut and paste to work so here's the text.:

Pirates of the Caribbean "On Stranger Tides"

- Los Angeles -Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides

Open Casting Call

Shooting in Los Angeles

August 2010

PIRATES

Looking for authentic-looking scavenger-types… ages 18 to 60s, all ethnicities, especially extreme characters – very thin, lean body types, very tall, very short, emaciated, odd features, huge nose, bulging eyes, big ears, lazy eye, grizzled and wrinkled faces, odd body types, missing teeth etc. Not looking for hearty eaters….me ‘earties…

Sande Alessi Casting

13731 Ventura Blvd. 2nd Floor

Sherman Oaks, CA 91423

Monday, June 28th through Friday July 9th

Our open casting call hours are Monday-Friday 3:00pm to 5:00pm

Please do not ALL come on Monday!!

Show up mid-week to avoid long lines.

***There is no experience necessary***

BRING a 3 x 5 current color photo. (Does NOT have to be professional.) No wigs, makeup or sunglasses in photos and please shoot it from the waist up. If you do not have a current color 3x5 photo, we will take one for you for $2.00.

BRING a pen or pencil.

You do not need to prepare for an audition, we will be simply have a look at you, have you fill out a registration card, attach your photo and send you on your way.

Do not say AARGH in your photo!

You must be 18 years or older and be legal to work in the U.S.

Please bring change for parking meters.

For more information please see our website at

www.SandeAlessiCasting.com

Edited by Graydog

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