Capt. Sterling Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 https://pyracy.com/index.php?showtopic=14814 Here Rene is some items in Twill...haven't reread the thread so I don't know if Cheeks posted the documentation, but after Marcus Hook, I can add a list here on some of the items we have been reading regarding mourning/funeral customs for the time frame... Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea: Merchant Seamen, Pirates and the Anglo-American Maritime World, 1700 - 1750 by Marcus Rediker Has a few interesting things on mourning practices of sailors but nothing on mourning clothes... "I being shot through the left cheek, the bullet striking away great part of my upper jaw, and several teeth which dropt down the deck where I fell... I was forced to write what I would say to prevent the loss of blood, and because of the pain I suffered by speaking."~ Woodes Rogers Crewe of the Archangel http://jcsterlingcptarchang.wix.com/creweofthearchangel# http://creweofthearchangel.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
René la Gaffe Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) https://pyracy.com/in...showtopic=14814 Here Rene is some items in Twill...haven't reread the thread so I don't know if Cheeks posted the documentation, but after Marcus Hook, I can add a list here on some of the items we have been reading regarding mourning/funeral customs for the time frame... Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea: Merchant Seamen, Pirates and the Anglo-American Maritime World, 1700 - 1750 by Marcus Rediker Has a few interesting things on mourning practices of sailors but nothing on mourning clothes... Thank you very much captain, but i wasnt just asking about mourning clothes, just clothes in general, im trying to learn more on the subject(of all people on the early 18th century)...i did come across this site, so far i have not found anything that contradicts it, but then again, i mostly seem to come across articles on late 18th century clothes...sadness Thank you as always, i shall have to buy that book, its been mentioned wwaayyy to many times.......It just occured to me and interesting thing that would justify my coat, i was just reading on how expensive it was for people of lesser means to buy black clothing for mourning, well was it uncommon to find second hand mourning clothes i wonder? That could lead into an interesting explanation of mourning, when asked why i have a black coat................wow that may have worked out quite wonderfully! Edited September 19, 2009 by René la Gaffe Monsieur René "la Gaffe" Truffaut - Sailor -filibustier - grenadier - Fiddler - free man (for now) .........I am french, why else would i have this outrageous accent, you silly man!..........You don't frighten me, English sea dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called "Capi-tain" you and all your silly English Pieeer-raghts........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D B Couper Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Has anyone ever tried salt water? It fades and softens. D.B. Couper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos'n Cross Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 well I will actually find out if salt water works, i wore the coat last night at works(local ferry) and draped a wet line over my shoulder....ill see what it does........... im also gonna let the sun have a good run of it, by wearing it around all the time..........thanks for the salt water heads up, if it works, i may well get it a little wetter............. -Israel Cross- - Boatswain of the Archangel - . Colonial Seaport Foundation Crew of the Archangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D B Couper Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 In the Navy we tied our new dungarees to a line and dragged them behind the ship for an hour or two. It faded the denim and softened the fabric. Not too sure if just getting your shirt wet one time with salt water will work. Try soaking the fabric in a container of sea water for a day or two. Then wash it with fresh water afterward. D.B. Couper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkie McDonough Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Mind you that the salt water will also leave a salt line like what you get on shoes in the winter if you expose the clothing to it after it is made. Which, I am guessing, may be just fine with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos'n Cross Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Silkie yee may know me too well already....for i sure dont mind at all.......Thanks again Mr. Couper, got some river sludge on it too...ill see what happens....... -Israel Cross- - Boatswain of the Archangel - . Colonial Seaport Foundation Crew of the Archangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Roberts Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) I found this while searching for other things. Black Cloth Read Kass' comment. Just throwing this out for you Cross. Edited December 11, 2009 by Jack Roberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Bottles Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 How did the fading experiment turn out? From my understanding linen and cotton use very robust mordants and don't respond well to RIT color remover. "The time was when ships passing one another at sea backed their topsails and had a 'gam,' and on parting fired guns; but those good old days have gone. People have hardly time nowadays to speak even on the broad ocean, where news is news, and as for a salute of guns, they cannot afford the powder. There are no poetry-enshrined freighters on the sea now; it is a prosy life when we have no time to bid one another good morning." - Capt. Joshua Slocum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos'n Cross Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 How did the fading experiment turn out? From my understanding linen and cotton use very robust mordants and don't respond well to RIT color remover. Do you remember the black coat i was wearing................so nnoppeeee.......i didnt try any ext ream methods, ill just let the coat be black........ -Israel Cross- - Boatswain of the Archangel - . Colonial Seaport Foundation Crew of the Archangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkie McDonough Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Should have jumped into the drink with it on then worn it in the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas. Hook Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Just going through some older posts here and thought I'd throw in my two pence. I've had some success in aging canvas and other mid-weight material by using bars of 'Lava' hand soap on wet, washable material. It is mildly abrasive, enough to tone down the garment and add wear around seams, pockets, elbows, collars, etc. Get a bar and some scrap material and give it a try. Jas. Hook "Born on an island, live on an island... the sea has always been in my blood." Jas. Hook "You can't direct the wind . . . but . . . you can adjust the sails." "Don't eat the chickens with writing on their beaks." Governor Sawney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos'n Cross Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 OOOOO lava hand soap,,,well that ddoooeess sound fun....though i didnt have the saop...i have taken sandpaper to a great many areas.........which did a good deal on it...thanks for the lava soap idea though.....i like it..... -Israel Cross- - Boatswain of the Archangel - . Colonial Seaport Foundation Crew of the Archangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas. Hook Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) OOOOO lava hand soap,,,well that ddoooeess sound fun.... Ay-yup... standing in the shower with ye clothes on, scrubbin' away... whilest singing the tune from South Pacific "I'm going that wash that color right out of my clothes, I'm going that color right out of my clothes, I'm going to wash that color right out of my clothes and send it on its way..." It's a lot more fun than a belt-sander. Your servant sir' Jas. Hook Edited January 23, 2010 by Jas. Hook "Born on an island, live on an island... the sea has always been in my blood." Jas. Hook "You can't direct the wind . . . but . . . you can adjust the sails." "Don't eat the chickens with writing on their beaks." Governor Sawney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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