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I plan on buying the plans from reconstructing history for the 1710's frock coat and sewing it myself, but I've been curious about the one for sale at jas-townsend.com. They make the claim that it is appropriate for the 1740's through the 1760's, but looking at it, it seems remarkably similar to many illustrations of pirates from the golden age. Pleated in the back, slit down the center, buttons all the way down the front. The shape of the cuffs seems to be off a bit, but that's the only thing I've noticed. Can I get anyones thoughts? http://jas-townsend.com/1740-frock-coat-p-1252.html

I made a shortcoat of tartan wool some months back for my Highlander/Jacobite kit... just curious if it would be to outlandish to wear it with a pirate kit? I have seen several plates with sailors wearing tartan breeches and slops but have yet to see any reenactors wearing tartan for pirate events... What say ye?

I mean, nowadays a woolen coat would be dry-cleaned and not merely washed. But how would one wash a coat in that time? What would they use, soap or lye wash, or anything else?

This may be the wrong place to put this but I am wondering what a GAOP courtly clothes would look like. Would they use silk? Is this picture early enough? I wanna be around 1720 .

After the insane weekend of the "Prickity Stitcher", I've taken to using some of the extras I have laying around, and therefore I'm wondering about the options for pocket shapes and how to make pockets on a jacket? Also I'm wondering about the different types of cuffs common for GAoP. Were they always huge? Rats

I have a quick question on coats. I am currently looking into upgrading from my costume coat to a more PC coat. Right now I am thinking of straying from the Long Coat and possibly picking up a sailor's jacket instead. I have been looking into possibly a Slops Contract style. My main question has to do with the overall length of the coat. Right now I have a long vest and I was wondering if the Sailors jacket would be at least as long as the vest. I am not to sure how it would look if the Jacket were a good deal shorter than the front of the vest. There is a picture of my current long vest on 117 of the garb thread for reference. Also there is a picture of Bo in what looks like a long vest and a sailor jacket. If Bo could confirm it, that would be helpful as I really like the look of the combination of Jacket and vest he is wearing. Thanks for any help.

I have some question about the Juste-au-corps. While I know that coats would vary from nation to nation and have slight differences from tailor to tailor what do we know about the construction and name of this garment? Did they have functional outside pockets? Did they have functional buttons to allow the coat to be sealed tightly in bad weather? Were they lined? Did they have inside pockets or is that a modern conveyance? We hear names like "Great Coat" and "Frock Coat" but these seem to describe other types of garments. Juste-au-corps, spelled many ways, is French. (?) What would this garment be called in England, among the Dutch, Italians, Spanish, or other nations? Would it always have the title Juste-au-corps. Historically when did this garment first appear? What did it evolve from? What did it evolve into? Thanks for help!

wanting to know what types of materials would be accepted for early frock coats 18th century between 1700-1730. & 1730-1760. I understand wool, linen, and brocade was used. My question is are there different weights for wool? For a frock coat what is the standard weight? Is it a suit weight (light), if ya want to do a light weight coat? Also what type of buttons other than pewter would be good. I was recommended to use large size up to a 1" round diameter, keeping the button holes between 1 1/2 "- 2". I am looking for Traders/Sutlers who sell period fabric and buttons,does anyone know of anyone other than, Jastownsend,Fugawee,Panther Primitives,Carolina Calicos as soon as i learn how to down load a picture here i could show you pirates the coat i wanna have made. last but not least, Does anyone or has anyone ever used oilcloth to make any type of garmet? I am looking to make a Greatcoat out of oilcloth canvas (treated) , view Panther Primitives catalog.Its dark brown in color. make sure to keep yer powder dry!

Working on a coat, linen liner with wool outer. Using a JP Ryan pattern which I no longer have. Can anybody advise a way to get the pleats right on the back? I have tried several different ways and cannot seem to get the pleats to lay right or the back of the skirts to look right.....getting a tad frustrated!! Thanks!! Wes

I have a gray coat that is not finished yet. It started out as a old west style coat but Ive been looking at it and I'm thinking of changing the lapels and making it more into the style of coat Tim Curry wore in Muppet Treasure Island. Having a hard time finding pics or references to exactly what style they were going for or basing the design off of. Anybody have pics or links that would help?

I have a white and cream waistcoat that is in desperate need of repair. The buttons are almost all gone and the trim I used is fraying badly. I almost tossed it out a few days ago but decided to hold on to it. Looking for someone to fix it up for trade. I do a lot of pirate jewelry and replica coins and hat pins. Any takers?

pic of the short jacket i made using a ladies wool sweater :)

I'm currently reading a book entitled "Mayflower Bastard" by David Lindsay and read mention of a type of sea captains coat called a Dreadnought Jacket. I wondered what it looks like. It may have connections to the Puritans and Pilgrims in the colonies of the early to mid 1600's. Any ideas?

Preferably light blue, gray, or brown for the Wesket, and definitely linen. anybody got a spare for sale?, PLMK. And no rush, I just need it before Sept.

So I know there were about a million different pocket variations in the GaoP, but currently I'm trying to make a new waistcoat, and I'm looking to use a very basic, "classic" design. Just plain pocket flaps, probably scalloped, with three buttons each. So far though I'm at a loss when it comes to the construction. I've seen a few patterns of period frock coats where the pockets have a sort of inverted-triangle-shaped opening, which looks interesting and pleasing to my eye, but I don't really know how to do it. I doubt welt pockets are particularly period, so I wouldn't do those, but I want to do something slightly more interesting than just a srtaight slit turned inside out. I'm also confused as to how to attach the flap itself. Is it inserted into the slit and finished with the rest of the pocket? Or is it sewn onto the top of the outside of the waistcoat? And if so, how do I avoid that horrible "puffy" look you often see on amateur costumes (especailly the ones with false pockets - yuck!). I've seen some pictures of movie costumes that have the triangular pocket opening, and they appear to have the flap stictched onto the top, rather than inserted into the slit (specifically those from "Pirates of the Caribbean" and "Perfume." I know, I know, not great sources, but still...). So clearly people out there do make this kind of pocket, but I cannot find a resource that details HOW. I've scoured the internet for a tutorial, but I can find none. Part of the problem may be that I don't know what this type of pocket is specifically called. If it is indeed a period pocket design, I'd realy like to use it for future historical costuming, but first I need to actually figure out how to make it. Does anyone here have any insight on this? Any advice will help! Thanks!

-- the other day i found and purchased a coat for 10 bucks--- i knew it was a REAL ANIMAL PELT coat.... but had NO idea what it was .... upon coming home and showing silas the coat, he simply said " well, the label says lambs wool, so i guess it is that"..... after laughing my butt off at my complete momemts of absolute idiocy.....LOL... anyway--that thing is sooooooooo huge, that i really dont know what to do with it.... i am thinking of making a blanket out of it.. like a mattress pad thingy--- so i can throw it down for bedding in the tentage for re enacting..... and the smaller pieces i can use for trim on something.... i just know that england had to use lamb pelts for many things....aside from the wool they used... any ideas? suggestions? interested to find out what you all have to say.....

Ahoy Mates, Does anyone know of a commercially (or otherwise) available pattern for a coat appropriate for the years 1710-1715 that would be fairly easy for a novice to assemble? I started to buy the "Jack Sparrow" pattern from Simplicity, but I really prefer something that is completely historically accurate instead. Any help would be so greatly appreciated, and me thanks in advance!

these are actually curtains my wife found... mostly linen-- i think 60/40 linen, cotton... i am thinking there is enough to make a frock coat out of it... what do you think of the print, though ??? close enough to use for gaop, or way off base ?? my hand is there to show some kind of dimensions the floral print has... tia

umm i need advice... i have buttons that are pc...{thanks to you mary diamond!!} but when you place them on the coat, the scale is all wrong--- no matter how many you try to place on there..... no matter how few { that makes the problem MORE apparent!!!} so geeeeee how does one search for 17th centurybuttons? man would i love non pc blingbling as i intend to wear this coat all winter some flash in the pan!!! opinions please!!TIA

here it is .... and it goes well with the silk skirts that i made to go with it... tell me what you think ladies.....{and gentlemen........

So I have a really nice London Fog four button full length dress longcoat madeof black wool with a silken type lining. I have cut off the collar, removed the shoulder pads but still have to figure out what to do with the lapels. I have another wool coat the same color that's tooo small and damaged so I've cut it up to make bigger sleeves to stich on the original jacket but I still can't get the fit right. Has anyone ever tackled a project simular to this? Any advice?

Well, our unofficial start date was Nov 1st so lets get started. If you are new to the project, you can check out the Topic Starter (on this forum) called "Group Justaucorps Project". You can join in at any time its not a race or contest.... So, my latest is I haven't decided which material to use.... even after a month of thinking about it. I got some more grosgrain silk... So now I have a some blue for the body and some scarlet for the turn-back cuffs..... My goal is to make something like this I still need some lining material though. Anyone have a cheap source for tafetta? PS This is the site that the plate above is from http://collectionsonline.lacma.org/mwebcgi...epage;id=500837 Its great for nice early justaucorps examples. Greg

Would canvas be historically accurate for a frock coat or sailor's short jacket?

Should the baldric be worn over the great coat or under it? I guess over it would make it more easy to draw a blade or other weapon but I imagine that the coat could also protect the weapons also. Anyone?

hello! First post here. I understand that asking for a British Military coat pattern on er.. well the oppositions board.. is a bit like flying the black flag of No Qarter. But Im a huge fan of the Jack Aubrey books, as well as Hornblower, and have always wanted a Post Captians coat. Anyone know of a good facimilie or close copy thereof? If not, id be interested in patterns etc... Thanks, David Hartman.