Bootstrap Bill Turner

Caraccioli: Great insight. captjacksparrowsavvvy: You need to get yourself a girl mate.

'Twas a rental I'll drink to that!

I saw the first one 13 times in the theatre. I waited excitedly for the second one. Unfortuantely I saw the second one once and that was enough. A bridge to the third movie? Excuse me? I'm an unsatisfied consumer as it is, and you're telling me that Disney threw togther a script and called it a sequel just to get another year of merchandising and try luring people back to the big screen to watch yet another disappointing special effects laden 'real movie' with barely a plot? I'm disappointed and angry, if indeed I bought a ticket to a bridge and not a movie. - What a Lame enterance. -The stupid tribal thing. I'm grateful really, I got to go get popcorn for my daughter and didn't miss anything, they were still on the damned wheel when I got back. -Jack Sparrow was not Jack Sparrow. He completely lost his edge. He was incompetent, lazy, his wit was gone, and unlike the first movie he came across less than intelligent. -Loved Norrington. Thought I'd hate it but didn't. Someone please tell me why Norrington turned stupid and gave the heart to the EITC geek? He has the heart. He owns the heart and therefore the Sea. Why oh why would he give it to such a trustworthy individual like that man? -Someone told Elizabeth that she was a girl! Yay! -Bootstrap Bill. Oh god don't get me started...the man had a starfish in his face. -Will ...whatever Its just a bad movie. There are no open ended questions in this movie. Plainly its just a very badly written movie. The first movie was adequately written. The one and ONLY thing that put the original movie on the map was Johnny Depp's interpretation of Jack Sparrow. The story boards are everywhere and the Jack Sparrow in those drawings was nowhere near the genius we saw on the screen. Thank God. The movie will probably remain my personal favorite for eternity. I'll just try and forget that Disney screwed up another sequel. Honestly, I don't think I'll see the next one in the theatre. Maybe I'll rent it when it comes out on DVD. Anyway, I thought I'd give my two cents.

Wellllll... You would have to have knives and saws on the list. Bandages. Medical books. Lanterns for light. Steady hands. What year are we talking about? I see 1600s all the way up to the book "Rough Medicine" being discussed around here and thats 1830's, so I'll go mid 1700s... Hmm lets start off with... Yes, saws and knives, bandages. John Woodall's "The Surgeon's Mate" I'm sure we'll have some humors to balance so we'll pack a fleam, lancet & scarificator screw tourniquet..or the materials to make it. retractor Tenaculum scissors forcepts scalpel lint adhesive plaster various needles &'thread' as much mercury as can be had Lemons, quinine and other herbs & Plants to make our many albeit ineffective remedies..inluding inducing blisters and draining the puss out. Oh yeah and a ton of whiskey.....medicinal you know.... How about we just steal a surgeon's chest?

Let me guess Black Jack. Ye be hangin' at Pauls Pub? Boot

I'm all excited. I bought my first two pieces of antique medical equipment. Small, but still thrilling! I got a late 18th C Lancet and a cupping jar. Made a trip to Gettysburg and got caught up in the moment!

Would you be able to direct me to any information via internet or books on the diagnosis of mental illness through facial expressions? That is very interesting! I've just recently gotten interested in the treatment and diagnosis of mental illness in the 17th & 18th Centuries. I'd really like to read up on it. Thanks!

Here's a really good site for historical aspects of the disease (They thought it was communicable!) Historical Aspects of Epilepsy A few herbs etc.. that were used for Falling Sickness/epilepsy This spans the eighteenth century. They are; St. John's Wort, Senna, Wood Bettony. A few preparations were: Epileptic Glyster...for both adults & children, a Cephalic Decoction, a carminitive julep and an Epileptic Infusion made with... Misseltoe, Juice of rue, brandy, spring water, Salt of tartar, Heated 12 hours strained and sweetened with syrup of piony. Hope it helps,

Iusually go to the Great Lakes Medieval Faire very year. I missed last year though. lol I need to stop, I end up spending a fortune on costumes and everything else. I almost bought a dulcimer there once but unfortunately had spousie with me who shamed me into putting away the plastic. Anyone go to that big one in Pa?

Its impossible. If the undead can't die they can't die. Unless of course they found a cursed post-it-note in the chest saying Boot was the only one it didn't apply to...

I've read it this way: *The title doctor did not become commonly associated with medical types until close to 1800. *Originally surgeons and physicians were seperated by the law of the Church that forbade a physician to shed blood. Physicians, some of which also performed surgery (but not often as they were above manual labor ) , were college educated (studying philosophy and learning in Latin ) earning a degree and were considered scholarly individuals preferring to diagnose, observe urine and gather together to have philosophical discussions. They prescribed medication and usually were very hands off. Their patients were always wealthy or noblemen. *You might notice how many of the notable medical folk in history were (barber)Surgeons and not physicians. The Barber-Surgeons were skilled workers who trained by apprenticeship (7 years) to perform surgical and other medical/dental/barber functions. They were the common man's medical man. Young apprentices often trained under veteran barber-surgeons some in hospitals like St. Thomas or St. Bartholomew, some in regular practice and others in the army/navy. Apothecaries also apprenticed (7 yrs I think as well) and could prescribe medication. ..Sorry if this was already discussed.

Where did you find the collection on Pare??

The seventeenth century pharmacopia in "Rough Medicine" was that of John Woodall. Woodall was a contemporary of Harvey, one of the Masters or Governors of the Company of Barber-Surgeons, a military surgeon in Lord Willoughby's regiment in 1591 and later first surgeon-general to the East India Company in 1612 . He found the surgeons and supplied every ship with their Ship Surgeon's Chest. (my icon is a repleca of the chest) He also wrote the "The Surgeon's Mate", or military & domestique surgery which was included in the chest, basically as an instruction manual. He wrote to the young inexperienced surgeons in language they could understand. It was written so well that it ended up in homes across England as a reference guide. The Viaticum contains "surgical instructions intended chiefly for the better curing of wounds made by gunshot." "Rough Medicine" is excellent!

Also, if you're interested here is a good article on the history of the Surgeon General starting with "The Father of Surgery" 16th century barber-surgeon Ambroise Pare. http://www.defence.gov.au/dpe/dhs/infocent...2_3_1_36-39.pdf

A ships Surgeon in the Royal Navy was not necessarily a medical doctor, more often than not, he was someone who had served an apprenticeship and passed a oral exam given by Surgeon's Hall in London by the Company of Barber-Surgeon after which a warrant was issued by the Sick & Hurt Board. If overseas, he could be examined by the Surgeon of the Fleet, or a physician and senior surgeon of the hospital and three surgeons of the fleet. He would then serve as a surgeon's mate for a period before being appointed full surgeon. Surgeons, at the start of the war were required to supply their own equipment and drugs. Later, in 1804 all drugs were supplied by the navy. They also were not allowed initially to go on half pay in 1793, but then senior surgeons were allowed half pay status. By 1805 things had changed substantially and all surgeons enjoyed half pay privileges. The surgeon was in charge of the sick and hurt seamen on board ship. He performed surgical operation when necessary, administer medicines and administered to the patients. He was also responsible for the general health of the ships crew. Hospital Ships and some First Rates would also carry a Physician. These were medical doctors who were the best the navy had to offer and their status was recognised by substantially higher pay: All surgeons and physicians were forbidden from having private patients. Seamen assigned to assist the Surgeon were initially called Surgeon's Mates, until 1805 when they became Assistant Surgeon. They were members of the Midshipmen's Mess. There was up to 5 qualified mates (in 1793) on a ship depending on the size and could be a larger number of unqualified mates.. All ships had at least 1 qualified mate, the 4th and 5th rates having 2, the 3rd rates had 3, 2nd rates had four and 1st rates had 5 mates. By 1815, that had been cut down to a maximum of 3 qualified mates. http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=barber...&yc=59102&icp=1