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Huzzah! Wish I could be there, but shall certainly promote it.
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I wish it wasn't true. I always keep this place in my bookmarks and keep pointing to it like a compass points to true north. I suppose those of us who stick around or keep returning are the fair and true pirates. Considering how fleeting many youth, and elders, interests are and their NEED to have EVERYTHING at their fingertips quite literally that forums are 'inconvenient' to them because if some place doesn't have an app for easy go-to ability, they will no go looking for it. Sad, says I. Down right sad! To be honest, keep fighting for the Pub. I pray it sticks around because the next generation of Pirates will need something. After all, these other places advertising for joining crews require a HUGE payment, and who else really advertises and discusses a lot about piracy? The Pub is a Pirate's Treasure, to be sure. M' black heart remains here at the Pub.
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Ahoy All - It has been a grand sail. and sad to see the Pub sail off into the setting Sun. Thank ye sirs for your time and efforts. Jas. Hook
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I've seen those images before. Even went digging a couple times to find the book they originally came from. Book was too rare to obtain here in the U.S., even through interlibrary loan. It unfortunately meant I couldn't use it for my research. The condition of studies in maritime clothing for English mariners is in bad enough condition (a reason I worked on it). As far as I can tell, even with the language barrier, the study of French maritime clothing is in a worse state. Someday, maybe, someone else will do graduate work on the subject and dig up period sources and provide notes.
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IIRC, this was one of the images:
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Um, good question. There was a long thread about it on the old Pirate Brethren board in which some artists' impressions from a French book were posted. As I recall nobody was able to ascertain how extensive the attempt was - whether it was actually a uniform or whether it was more like the RN slops. Either way, it was all info found on the net.
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Where did you read about that? While French maritime outfits are not the main focus of my maritime clothing work, I tried my best to compare what little is available about the French to the English in regards to Maritime Clothing. It's too bad that there is so little translated into English.
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The French Navy started experimenting with some uniformity for foremastmen in the 1690s, and adopted uniforms for officers in the early 18th (I forget the exact year, but pre-1720. The Royal Navy had uniformed slop clothing for sale to its foremastmen from at least 1663, but it was not required for seamen to buy or wear it. Officers in the RN didn't get a uniform until 1747, though there is slim evidence of some officers on the Gibraltar station adopting an unofficial uniform of a red coat with black tape in the 1720s. I don't know exactly when flintlock mechanisms were added to ships' guns, but it was after the 1730s The earliest evidence of a wheel on an English ship is 1713. Some French ships may have had them slightly earlier.
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https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/folklore-and-the-sea-the-american-maritime-library-vol-6_horace-beck/378895/?mkwid=sckPaGqkw|dc&pcrid=70112871912&pkw=&pmt=&plc=&gclid=CPX7k5KGvNMCFUc2gQodnvkCAw#isbn=0785811192&idiq=6123949 Fisherman, sailors, merchantmen, navies, shipwrights, pirates and smugglers - all earned their livlihood from the seas and the shores surrounding them, some honestly, some with cruel and cunning. Here are the stories, the tales, and legends which form the lore and fables of these men and women. The rugged fishermen of Newfoundland and the Canadian Maritime Provinces; the privateers and merchantmen of Maine, Massachusetts and the Chesapeake; the mariners of the British West Indies; the seafarers of the harsh and stormy coasts of Ireland and Scotland - all helped shape myriad legends and tales of the deep. Herein you will discover beliefs and superstitions about boatbuilding, weather, creatures of the deep, and the ghosts and demons that have, in all ages, risen from the sea to terrify and enchant men. FOLKLORE AND THE SEA unravels the sources of these folktales, plumbs their meanings, and helps preserve the customs, beliefs and traditions of hundreds of years of seafaring.
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Quite a bit of info here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_meat#China
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For the salt cured horse meat in asian countries, how is it salted? I read that most of the salt in Asia was traditionally transported and used as a brine (such as fish sauce, soy sauce, etc.) instead of as dried salt. Would that still have similar curing properties? Or would it essentially pickle the meat in a salty brine?
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Hi I was wondering when Flint Gunlocks were started generally used by Naval Powers, British Empire 1745, French 1805, but what about the other Naval powers and Barbary Pirates. LW
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I don't know the answers, but I'm almost certain each of these things has been discussed here in the past. Use the search function, restricting your search to the appropriate forum. Most of them are probably in Captain Twill. (You may find the gunlock answer in Cacabel's Lock, Stock & Barrel forum.)
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Hi in creating a early 18th Century Hard Fantasy world set during the Golden Age of Piracy that's 1720 to 1730 timeframe a Human only world, so I need info on 18th Century Navies, Unforms which Sea going powers started using them? Flint Gunlocks on Cannons when did the Nations started using them? Ship Pilot Wheel's when did each Sea going Nation generally started to use them?, LW
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Salted Horse is a slang term used for any salt-cured meat. The term was often used by soldiers in a derogatory fashion when referring to their low quality meat rations. Actual salt cured horse meat is eaten in some Asian countries.
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? Where did you see that? I've seen period accounts of salted pork & beef, the salting of fish, boars, seals and even penguins. But I don't recall ever seeing a mention of salted horse.
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Apologies, milady! Quest for Blackbeard is now available in ebook formats: Lulu at $24.99: http://www.lulu.com/shop/baylus-c-brooks/quest-for-blackbeard-the-true-story-of-edward-thache-and-his-world/ebook/product-23093757.html Amazon Kindle at $24.99: https://www.amazon.com/Quest-Blackbeard-Story-Edward-Thache-ebook/dp/B06XPMPTVM/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Barnes & Noble Nook Book at 42% off right now for $14.49: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/quest-for-blackbeard-baylus-c-brooks/1124659270?ean=9781365795923 Apple iTunes at $24.99: https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/quest-for-blackbeard/id1212991334?mt=11
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Read the version edited by Manuel Schonhorn, taking time to read the end notes for each chapter. He explains where everything came from in Johnson's book. Mostly it was newspaper accounts, public records and published court accounts. What Johnson did was sift and organize these otherwise dry, dull documents (trust me, I've read a lot of them) and the stuff he added is mostly regarded as being fictional like the story of Captain Misson, Blackbeard's supposed journal, philosophical speeches by some of the pirates and similar odds and ends. The author of these books is widely believed these days to be journalist Nathaniel Mist. Ed explains the reasoning behind this pretty well in this posting.
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This may interest you. “[Roberts, philosophy] [Thomas] Sutton used to be very prophane; he happening to be in the same Irons with another Prisoner, who was more serious than ordinary, and read and pray’d often, as became his Condition; this Man, Sutton used to swear at, and ask him, what he proposed by so much Noise and Devotion? Heaven, says the other, I hope. Heaven, you Fool, says Sutton, did you ever hear of any Pyrates going thither? Give me H———ll, it’s a merrier Place: I’ll give Roberts a Salute of 13 Guns at Entrance. And when he found such ludicrous Expressions had no Effect on him, he made a formal Complaint, and requested that the Officer would either remove this Man, or take his Prayer-Book away, as a common Disturber.” (Daniel Defoe (Captain Charles Johnson), A General History of the Pyrates, Manuel Schonhorn, ed., 1999, p. 246) (There's no indication about what happened after that.)
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Well the book reads like it was written by a Police or Crime Reporter in my mind at least. LW
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As Foxe already explained, when you try and hunt them down, you'll find that many of the sea superstitions can only be traced back to the mid/late 18th century. I ran into that when trying to run down superstitions that we think were prevalent then when I was writing my article Dealing With the Deceased a few years back. I found the sea superstitions weren't much different than the landsmen's superstitions and a lot of the more "sea-based" myths came later. As I quoted in my article, "Writing several decades after the golden age of piracy about a shipwreck that took place in 1739, John Byron explained, That common people in general are addicted to superstitious conceits, is an observation founded on experience; and the reason is evident: but I cannot allow that common seamen are more so than others of the lower class. In the most enlightened ages of antiquity, we find it to have been the popular opinion, that the spirits of the dead were not at rest till their bodies were interred; and that they did not cease to haunt and trouble those who had neglected this duty to the departed. This is still believed by the vulgar, in most countries"
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Part of the crew, part of the ship.
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Davy Jones and Fiddler's Green and Sea Myths
lwhitehead replied to lwhitehead's topic in Captain Twill
18th Century Christian Beliefs were do I find sources and Books on afterlife as well. LW -
Many trailers for the new POTC film! The latest has Will Turner looking slightly crusty... Perhaps everyone who rides aboard the Dutchman becomes a fish man not just the wicked?
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Port Washington Pirate Festival is due to return June 2-4, 2017! http://portwashingtonpiratefestival.com I figured that since the pub was still serving I'd drop in a plug. Small festival but at least it's free!
