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  2. Davy Jones and Fiddler's Green and Sea Myths

    https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/folklore-and-the-sea-the-american-maritime-library-vol-6_horace-beck/378895/?mkwid=sckPaGqkw|dc&pcrid=70112871912&pkw=&pmt=&plc=&gclid=CPX7k5KGvNMCFUc2gQodnvkCAw#isbn=0785811192&idiq=6123949 Fisherman, sailors, merchantmen, navies, shipwrights, pirates and smugglers - all earned their livlihood from the seas and the shores surrounding them, some honestly, some with cruel and cunning. Here are the stories, the tales, and legends which form the lore and fables of these men and women. The rugged fishermen of Newfoundland and the Canadian Maritime Provinces; the privateers and merchantmen of Maine, Massachusetts and the Chesapeake; the mariners of the British West Indies; the seafarers of the harsh and stormy coasts of Ireland and Scotland - all helped shape myriad legends and tales of the deep. Herein you will discover beliefs and superstitions about boatbuilding, weather, creatures of the deep, and the ghosts and demons that have, in all ages, risen from the sea to terrify and enchant men. FOLKLORE AND THE SEA unravels the sources of these folktales, plumbs their meanings, and helps preserve the customs, beliefs and traditions of hundreds of years of seafaring.
  3. Salted Horse

    Quite a bit of info here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_meat#China
  4. Salted Horse

    For the salt cured horse meat in asian countries, how is it salted? I read that most of the salt in Asia was traditionally transported and used as a brine (such as fish sauce, soy sauce, etc.) instead of as dried salt. Would that still have similar curing properties? Or would it essentially pickle the meat in a salty brine?
  5. Hi I was wondering when Flint Gunlocks were started generally used by Naval Powers, British Empire 1745, French 1805, but what about the other Naval powers and Barbary Pirates. LW
  6. 18th Century Navies

    I don't know the answers, but I'm almost certain each of these things has been discussed here in the past. Use the search function, restricting your search to the appropriate forum. Most of them are probably in Captain Twill. (You may find the gunlock answer in Cacabel's Lock, Stock & Barrel forum.)
  7. 18th Century Navies

    Hi in creating a early 18th Century Hard Fantasy world set during the Golden Age of Piracy that's 1720 to 1730 timeframe a Human only world, so I need info on 18th Century Navies, Unforms which Sea going powers started using them? Flint Gunlocks on Cannons when did the Nations started using them? Ship Pilot Wheel's when did each Sea going Nation generally started to use them?, LW
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  9. Salted Horse

    Salted Horse is a slang term used for any salt-cured meat. The term was often used by soldiers in a derogatory fashion when referring to their low quality meat rations. Actual salt cured horse meat is eaten in some Asian countries.
  10. Salted Horse

    ? Where did you see that? I've seen period accounts of salted pork & beef, the salting of fish, boars, seals and even penguins. But I don't recall ever seeing a mention of salted horse.
  11. Quest for Blackbeard

    Apologies, milady! Quest for Blackbeard is now available in ebook formats: Lulu at $24.99: http://www.lulu.com/shop/baylus-c-brooks/quest-for-blackbeard-the-true-story-of-edward-thache-and-his-world/ebook/product-23093757.html Amazon Kindle at $24.99: https://www.amazon.com/Quest-Blackbeard-Story-Edward-Thache-ebook/dp/B06XPMPTVM/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Barnes & Noble Nook Book at 42% off right now for $14.49: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/quest-for-blackbeard-baylus-c-brooks/1124659270?ean=9781365795923 Apple iTunes at $24.99: https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/quest-for-blackbeard/id1212991334?mt=11
  12. My thoughts on Capt Johnson's book

    Read the version edited by Manuel Schonhorn, taking time to read the end notes for each chapter. He explains where everything came from in Johnson's book. Mostly it was newspaper accounts, public records and published court accounts. What Johnson did was sift and organize these otherwise dry, dull documents (trust me, I've read a lot of them) and the stuff he added is mostly regarded as being fictional like the story of Captain Misson, Blackbeard's supposed journal, philosophical speeches by some of the pirates and similar odds and ends. The author of these books is widely believed these days to be journalist Nathaniel Mist. Ed explains the reasoning behind this pretty well in this posting.
  13. Davy Jones and Fiddler's Green and Sea Myths

    This may interest you. “[Roberts, philosophy] [Thomas] Sutton used to be very prophane; he happening to be in the same Irons with another Prisoner, who was more serious than ordinary, and read and pray’d often, as became his Condition; this Man, Sutton used to swear at, and ask him, what he proposed by so much Noise and Devotion? Heaven, says the other, I hope. Heaven, you Fool, says Sutton, did you ever hear of any Pyrates going thither? Give me H———ll, it’s a merrier Place: I’ll give Roberts a Salute of 13 Guns at Entrance. And when he found such ludicrous Expressions had no Effect on him, he made a formal Complaint, and requested that the Officer would either remove this Man, or take his Prayer-Book away, as a common Disturber.” (Daniel Defoe (Captain Charles Johnson), A General History of the Pyrates, Manuel Schonhorn, ed., 1999, p. 246) (There's no indication about what happened after that.)
  14. My thoughts on Capt Johnson's book

    Well the book reads like it was written by a Police or Crime Reporter in my mind at least. LW
  15. Davy Jones and Fiddler's Green and Sea Myths

    As Foxe already explained, when you try and hunt them down, you'll find that many of the sea superstitions can only be traced back to the mid/late 18th century. I ran into that when trying to run down superstitions that we think were prevalent then when I was writing my article Dealing With the Deceased a few years back. I found the sea superstitions weren't much different than the landsmen's superstitions and a lot of the more "sea-based" myths came later. As I quoted in my article, "Writing several decades after the golden age of piracy about a shipwreck that took place in 1739, John Byron explained, That common people in general are addicted to superstitious conceits, is an observation founded on experience; and the reason is evident: but I cannot allow that common seamen are more so than others of the lower class. In the most enlightened ages of antiquity, we find it to have been the popular opinion, that the spirits of the dead were not at rest till their bodies were interred; and that they did not cease to haunt and trouble those who had neglected this duty to the departed. This is still believed by the vulgar, in most countries"
  16. Pirates of the Caribbean 5!

    Part of the crew, part of the ship.
  17. Davy Jones and Fiddler's Green and Sea Myths

    18th Century Christian Beliefs were do I find sources and Books on afterlife as well. LW
  18. Pirates of the Caribbean 5!

    Many trailers for the new POTC film! The latest has Will Turner looking slightly crusty... Perhaps everyone who rides aboard the Dutchman becomes a fish man not just the wicked?
  19. Port Washington Pirate Festival is due to return June 2-4, 2017! http://portwashingtonpiratefestival.com I figured that since the pub was still serving I'd drop in a plug. Small festival but at least it's free!
  20. Davy Jones and Fiddler's Green and Sea Myths

    If you want to go with a historically accurate version then you basically need to be looking at 18th century Christian beliefs about death and the afterlife.
  21. Davy Jones and Fiddler's Green and Sea Myths

    Yes but what about a Sea going Grim Ripper like Character gathering the Dead in a Coffinship, LW
  22. Davy Jones and Fiddler's Green and Sea Myths

    If you're looking at heaven/hell, often when I've seen the superstitions, Fiddler's Green is more of a paradise/heaven than Davy Jones' Locker. Some myths state that Davy Jones' Locker is where sailors go if they die at sea, while Fiddler's Green is where they go if they die on land. I generally don't hear of Davy Jones' Locker being necessarily bad, but it isn't the utopia and 'holiday' that Fiddler's Green is made out to be. So if you want to use them as heaven/hell, it would be easier to have FG = Heaven and DJL = Hell. At least that's my two cents worth.
  23. Davy Jones and Fiddler's Green and Sea Myths

    Let's get back On Topic Fiddler's Green and Davy Jones Locker how can I protray Heaven and Hell for Pirates?, LW
  24. Davy Jones and Fiddler's Green and Sea Myths

    We are pretty off-topic here, but I guess we’re not bound the articles anymore… There are tools to automatically download what you are interested in instead of doing it by hand. It still takes some time to do it, but it’s the computer working anyway. I have some parts already stored. PM me if you want a copy. (But, even better would be if a super-user could make a copy of everything, that other users could download!) More off-topic, this is a nice site for tracking pirates and others www.historylogbook.org
  25. Pirates of the Caribbean 5!

    New trailer just dropped. Interesting... we see a young Jack Sparrow. It looks like they're going back to the Well for this one as it has a lot of elements from the first POTC.
  26. The Pyracy Pub is Closing!

    Arr.. so sad. I often visited these pages. I shall miss them. It has been a long time since my first login here. Thank you to all the contributors for brightening my days.
  27. Davy Jones and Fiddler's Green and Sea Myths

    The more likely explanation is that Stynky is too lazy to take it down. (Trust me, I know Stynky...) Although I've no doubt that when the web page contract expires as Coastie mentioned, it will suddenly disappear. This has the added benefit of insuring that Stynky doesn't actually have to do anything to remove it. I have saved a lot of the files that interested me, although they're in separate Word files and so are a PITA to actually try and sift through unless you know what you're looking for. I mostly saved them to refer to stuff that I can use in writing future Surgeon's Journal articles.
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